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  1. MordaloMVD

    MordaloMVD F1 Rookie

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    I’m looking to install the Escort Laser/Radar jammer/detector in my F430. Anyone have experience with this setup beyond the advertising hype?
     
  2. mw575

    mw575 F1 Rookie

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    Can't help- have a V1- but if you install it please post your experience.
     
  3. roytoy2003

    roytoy2003 F1 Veteran

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    I went with the V-1 radar and then the Escort Lasar Jammer portion, they DO interconnect. I think the V-1 is a BETTER radrar, but the Lasar/jammer is not produced by V-1........

    Works great has saved me several times!!!!!!
     
  4. thomas_b

    thomas_b Formula Junior

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    #4 thomas_b, Mar 5, 2006
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    had the SR& in concealed installation in all my cars - jammers go into air intakes left/right in front and onto license plate in the back, detector is hidden under front bumper, electronic is under dashboard

    sorry don't have pictures for the F430 and the CS installation pictures are gone - see discussion http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2603&highlight=sr7+radar

    the mute and volume control is operated by a F switch that goes into the empty slot (US only) in the control panel left to the steering wheel (see picture) - for the red/green alarm/on LED light we drilled a hole next to the total/trip mileage switch in the CS - in the F430 they inserted the LED into the dome light!

    so far the SR7 has worked perfect for me - both detector/jammer work and the number of false alarms in reasonable - the new unit in the F430 talks to you "Laser alarm" or "X-Band Radar detected" or something like that - not so sure about that

    I like that the SR7 can be installed invisible - it doesn't mess up the interior - additional benefit of its invisibility is that it doesn't piss the cops off - I have no comparison data to other detectors / jammers

    the new unit is acting up lately - starts giving false alarms when the car is coming to standstill ??? - installer will replace it

    folks who do the installation for me

    Hugo Bobadilla
    425.614.4100
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    Benchmark Motoring
    Automotive Electronics and Styling
    http://WWW.BENCHMARKMOTORING.COM
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  5. donv

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    Is the jammer portion laser, or radar, or what?

    If it's laser, does it actually work?
     
  6. MordaloMVD

    MordaloMVD F1 Rookie

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    Laser.
     
  7. roytoy2003

    roytoy2003 F1 Veteran

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    It is LASER, from my undertanding it provides an "ERROR" reading on the Officer"s hand held unit.
     
  8. BritBlaster

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    Thomas, I have your "old" Stradale, and I can attest that the SR7 installation is extremely well-done and very professional looking -- it looks like it's completely factory -- very discrete installation.

    There is a lot of debate as to the effectiveness of laser detectors and jammers. The laser gun emits a very small beam, and therefore the chances of it being pointed at your laser jammer is rather small. The detector may pick up some of the reflected laser light and be able to give you a warning that the gun is active somewhere, but by that time the city-revenue-generating-device (ie cop) has already gotten an accurate reading. How prevalent are lasers in this state anyway ? I have no idea -- there are some drawbacks with them that some police departments choose to avoid them (eg working in smoky/foggy conditions, additional cost/training etc).

    The biggest concern to motorists in this state should be the appearance of automatic photo-radar cameras -- these devices have completely destroyed the driving experience in the UK and other countries and their arrival in this state should be vehemently opposed.
     
  9. MordaloMVD

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    Very prevalent. Is it not funny that it is a Feral Crime (felony) for you to point a laser at an aircraft (possibly blinding the pilot) yet it is OK to do the same by a cop to a motorist. The old double standard again.

    Remember, when God put on the WSP uniform, he was only playing cop.
     
  10. frefan

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    #10 frefan, Mar 6, 2006
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    I have SRX in my 575, and Ducati, and now being installed in CS. System works very well. The install is totally concealed.

    Here's pics from my Ducati install, so you can see the components: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80958&highlight=ducati+escort

    Here's pic of the back of my 575; laser jammer is above the plate.

    A friend of mine is a cop, we tested the unit with his laser gun, it worked. The display read ERR, then he hit the car a second time and it read 0 (I was stopped).

    Most folks around here prefer V1; I prefer escort due to its discreet install, seems to work just as well for me.
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  11. Spasso

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    I would help you with that question but my 308 doesn't go fast enough to get tickets.:p:p
     
  12. donv

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    I have always felt that one advantage of the photo-radar cameras, from a motorist's point of view, is that they are easy to detect with a V1, or other decent radar detector. Much easier to deal with than an officer using instant on radar and a good hiding spot.

    Am I missing something?

    Last summer on I-5, I ran across 7 (IIRC) photo radar sites in a row just across the California border. It was annoying, but after a while it was just comical. V1 would go off, I would slow down, there was the photo radar. One or two miles later, same thing.

     
  13. DrSpalding

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    I don't believe that those are photo radars--they are simply speed boards to let people know how fast they are going in the Siskiyous and the curvy bits of I-5.

    They don't catch a F355 on their radar at all, and they do not register speeds over 100MPH either. :)
     
  14. DrSpalding

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    Why on the back? AFAIK, they (the Polizei) are not allowed to do it from the back side, only from the front. I could easily be wrong or out of date with the law as it is now.
     
  15. frefan

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    There is 1 on the back and 2 in the front. The fronts are hidden in the grill. I wasn't aware abouy any restrictions re: front vs. back. The display will show F LASER or R LASER when hit. I've had them both go off at one time or another. It seems laser is used in-city, radar on the hiways. Cops are trained to hit the license plate and the front grill or corners, then need a solid reflective surface.
     
  16. RumorDude

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    on a related subject, there was an article maybe a year ago or so in some magazine like 'car & driver' or so going on about how cities were installing a lot of 'red light runner' cameras. The article went on to describe that in intersections where these were installed, the time that the light stayed yellow was reduced from a standard four seconds down to a more challenging three second delay. Obviously, this resulted in more people apparently running red lights. This was advertised as an "feature to increase revenue to the city" installing them. What a riot, eh?
     
  17. BritBlaster

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    Patrick Bedard has written many, many excellent articles about the fraud of the cameras. Here's one such example
    http://www.motorists.com/issues/enforce/caranddriver.html
     
  18. RumorDude

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    Yeah thats such a scam. I will say however, that i do often see people tailgating too much, especially taller cars that can see over my shorter ones. Usually they are cars with a lot of weight too (i.e. suv/truck), meaning they have no chance to stop as fast as me anyway.

    Anyway, what would you-all think about a new system whereby the camera monitors not just approximate speed of two vehicles, but also the distance between them and hands out tickets based on some "reasonable" (not necessarily "conservative") distance per unit speed factor?
     
  19. MordaloMVD

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    I think they need to use a system like the German one where you need to take a two week REAL driving course and be 18 before you get your license. Instead of writing speed tickets out of speed traps, how about something novel and actually have the cars on the road and pulling people over for not getting out of the fast lane when not passing, or failure to merge. I just love those idiots that take up half of two lanes when there is a merge are, just so no one can pass them.

    On the Autobahn you get 300 meters to merge at 120 miles per hour.
    Funny how somehow they manage to do it and we can't seem to get it done in 3/4 of a mile. (so endeth the rant)
     
  20. RumorDude

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    do we have a higher vehicle density on our roads?
     
  21. MordaloMVD

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    Actually, no we do not. Not in WA anyway. CA is probably another story. :)
     
  22. RumorDude

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    just to be clear, by vehicle density, i mean number of cars traveling over a given segment of paved roadway over time. I was searching for some stats and the definition of vehicle density that seems to be used widely relates to the number of cars per person (btw germany had just under 600 last decade).

    For example, if we have one mile of two lanes, how many cars will travel over it in one minute? The interesting thing about this metric is that it decreases as vehicle speed decreases. Wel, I guess i am way off topic now. So um, how about we ebay a laser gun and test it? http://cgi.ebay.com/MARKSMAN-LTI-20-20-POLICE-LASER-RADAR-GUN-MPH-KUSTOM_W0QQitemZ7748349746QQcategoryZ395QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
     
  23. MordaloMVD

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    That would most likely be higher in Germany than here because of the increased speed. The run from Hamburg to Berlin is always very busy. According to the DOT, even in this country, the accident per capita rate drops in those areas where speeds are less restricted or not enforced at all. Nevada and Montana come to mind. I guess people just have to pay greater attention.  There was a very interesting program about this on PBS recently. Other factors of course are also way better roads.
     
  24. RumorDude

    RumorDude Formula Junior

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    yeah this one is majorly huge. Having grown up in southern california, the roads here suck in a majorly unfriendly way. There are huge grooves, uncanny curves, crappy off-camber sweeps, poor surface quality, lack of rubber in the asphalt and major crackage, potholes and of course those stupid possums! Oh, and unfriendly driving weather with an abundance of crappy drivers to add some extra excitement into my commute. Even the racetrack surface sucks. However, given all these exciting things, i think we could probably let darwin solve the problem for us. Remove the speed limits all together -- no, like hawaii and other states, add a minimum speed limit - a real high one. then all the crappy driver people will crash, freeing up space for everyone else! /sarcasm

    EDIT:: wow i am chatty today.
     
  25. BritBlaster

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    I emailed Jeannie Mucklestone, a highly regarded (esp on these forums) attorney that deals exclusively with traffic-related citations in King County, and solicited her opinion on laser detectors/jammers, and here's what she had to say (reprinted with permission) in her prompt reply: (Disclaimer: I've not used Jeannie, but she's bookmarked in case one day I do need her)

    [...] Needless to say it is my number one priority to keep my client's records clean and to give the best customer service of any attorney. Laser jammers are legal in WA. The fact that you have one, even if you believe it is working properly, is not admissible in Court. I have a very high success rate with laser
    tickets and I am familiar with the technology used. Some jurisdictions are
    tightening up their evidence though.
    Most important is to tell everyone to not say anything to the
    officer when you are stopped. Do not answer any questions at all. If
    requested do not do any field sobriety tests, do not blow into the portable
    breath test on the side of the road. The only things I recommend doing is
    taking the Breathalyzer at the station and tell the officer right away you
    want to talk to a lawyer and call me.
    Jeannie P. Mucklestone, PS.
    615 Second Avenue Penthouse Suite 720
    Seattle, Washington 98104
    206.623.3343
    www.mucklestone.com
     

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