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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by awhite, Mar 9, 2006.

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  1. LetsJet

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    Noah & Art,

    This is directed at you two because browsing this thread I came across your posts that seem to support this behavior.

    I have a real problem dealing with someone that would write this :

    "This item is not available through your Ferrari dealer unless you are a owner of a Ferrari Enzo."

    If he knew it not to be true then it's a lie and Noah, you shouldn't think that is ok.......... and Art, you should def. know better. In fact Art, wouldn't you think purchasers have legal recourse for a refund?

    I've got no problem with him selling at any price he can get. He just shouldn't have to misrepresent to do it. Yes, I have seen other salespeople do it. I don't hold them in high regard.

    Now, AW, you are assuming he knows these are available at the dealer and he may or may not.

    Nice looking key........... Will it fit a 355?
     
  2. wrs46

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    Yes I did; I didn't have a Trabant, but three of my colleagues (2-Austrians, one Finn) each purchased one and they gave me a lead for one that was almost new (it sold for EURO 2.5K).
     
  3. wheelhor

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    Someone in that position of Selling products, takes the responsibility of the words they use to sell a product. Blatant lies should not be tolerated. If he did not include that sentence about only being able to get them if you have an Enzo, he could sell them at any price, and that is ok. Those are sick keys though!!!!



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  4. 2000YELLOW360

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    I wasn't condoning his misrepresentations, I was however commenting on someone who'd buy a key that they didn't have a functional use for, i.e., no car to fit it in. Barnum had it right: one born every minute I beleive is the quote. (No offense NNO)

    Art
     
  5. darth550

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  6. quartermaster

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    Note the lablel on the red key: Made in Canada.
     
  7. BT

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    I would not say it is an Ebay scam. I would call it what it is. Misleading or untrue advertising. But if you buy it, you will get the key? If so, then it does not qualify as a 'scam'. Not a great deal, but not a scam.
    BT
     
  8. albert328gts

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    OK, enough on this, now for a serious question. Now that we all know where to get a better deal on the "key", will it a fit a 348? Someone out there has to know? Please...
     
  9. Modenafan

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    If you're talking about the alarm portion, that probably came with the original key not the one pictured.
     
  10. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    FWIW and in Jimmy's defense I think that originally the only way to get another key for an Enzo was if you were an owner. That's no lie. :)
     
  11. chris marsh

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    what else will it fit?
     
  12. 134282

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    None taken - I don't own one of those keys (by financial circumstance, not by choice:D)
     
  13. chris marsh

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    If this is true, how did they get into Jimmy's possesion
     
  14. RossoCorsaItaly

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    Connections.

    Maybe something changed but in the past these keys were not so easy to get. Maybe FOLV wasn't making enough money charging everyone $10 to come in so they started selling keys?

    As far as the thread related topic, I think it's false advertising at the most. I don't agree with it, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it a scam. Not something I'd do or would be in support of somebody doing though.
     
  15. Challenge64

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    My 360 CS came with the rare "Enzo" Keys too....Seems they aren't as rare as the guy says
     
  16. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    I said "originally" it was true. Obviously almost anyone can get their hands on one now. I'd be curious is this is exactly the same as an Enzo key? If it is than it seems silly that F would offer them willy nilly like that. I'd doubt they are exactly the same thing. Can anyone verify?
     
  17. awhite

    awhite Formula 3
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    hmmmm
    It is the same key

    0478501150010 - Enzo Ferrari Key

    I just spoke with FNA and they said there WAS NEVER a time whebn the only way to get this key was to own an Enzo as clearly on the documentation that coems with the key that Jimmy posted it is the same key they give you for the CS and 360

    Also, the stock key that came with the 360;'s is priced the same

    -a
     
  18. paulie_b

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    You can get your 360 key painted any color thru Cavallino Models. To match the exterior color or anything you want. Comes out great. Cost me $25.
     
  19. awhite

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  20. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    OK, but I remember that at one time it was next to impossible to get one. I'm going off of posts that I recall from a couple of years back. People were having them painted to look like an Enzo key. They're of no interest to me so details may be more specific. Only recently has it been easier(last year or so) to purchase this style of key AFAIK :) Regardless, the info on that current eBay listing is false as it applies to today's accessibility.
     
  21. thepinkumbrella

    thepinkumbrella F1 Veteran

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    There are too many people out there trying to make a quick buck with unsuspecting buyers
    Superficially they may have done nothing wrong but this is still a scam picking on the un suspecting ferrari enthusiast
    There may be now ferraristi out there thinking they are buying something that means something
    But instead.....................................?????????????????????????????????
     
  22. awhite

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    hmmmm
    I can just email the people that purchased one, and see if they feel it was a scam or not..


    -a
     
  23. thepinkumbrella

    thepinkumbrella F1 Veteran

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    But surely you wouldnt get sucked in to that
     
  24. Skyler360Spider

    Skyler360Spider Formula Junior

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    Agreed 100%
     
  25. Kevallino

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    They sell those keys at the Ferraristore.com as keyrings. My wife bought the Enzo one for around $160 or so.

    Jimmy can do as he likes I guess - not sure I am his target market though.

    Cheers
    Kevin
     

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