F-1 question on 360 when ASR is "off"..........

Was that in the CS or 360? Not that I know, just curious. I turned ASR off on my 360 (stick), dumped the clutch and immediately found myself pointing the wrong direction. I left ASR alone after that.

 

I've never tried taking off the ASR. I need all the help I can get. Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when I read the owners manual I believe it said if you take off the ASR control and have the car in sport mode, the rev limiter is disabled. Did I read that correctly? I always leave my ASR on as well as my car is always in Sport mode. I've hit the rev limiter too many times to risk it.

 

The ASR button means Attempt Suicide Rapidly

 

I'd be surprised if they diabled rev-limiter, that would blow the engine. I know on 575 F1 that with sport mode off, the car will upshift when it hits rev limiter. With sport mode on, the rev limiter kicks in, but no upshift.

 

Its really a matter of how much grip there is and how quickly you press the throttle down.

If you want to spin the wheels, a very abrupt press of the thottle seems to do the trick. Its quite possible both to lay black lines or fill the engine compartment with smoke. A very grippy surface, plus even a slightly tentative pushing down is a bad combo.

 

The rev limiter is not disabled by ASR.

Nailing the throttle with ASR off at a stop should result in the car dissapearing in its own tire smoke.

Not doing that suggests something wrong in the clutch dept.
An SD2 readout of clutch wear is not and end all be all of the clutch.

 

Funny. I did the same thing in my car, and lit the tires up to redline. Oh wait, I have a 6-speed (ha ha couldn't resist).
Seriously though, from what I understand, the car should have lit up the tires.

On the topic of ASR, when I first purchased the car I promised myself that I would drive it for 30 days without disabling the ASR, and I was true to my word. What torture! I have never driven the car with ASR on since. It's fun kicking the rear end out coming out of a corner every so often. The car handles so well, it's not like trying it in a Porsche or something. Gives you a much better feel for the car's limits.
The rev limiter is not disabled when ASR is disabled. Trust me on this one.

 

Thanks, appreciate the info.

Thank you.

 

I did the same thing you did and heard squeeling at the same time. Took it in with clutch wear at 94% -

Sounds like you need a new clutch -

New clutch is in and did the same thing - Plenty of tire smoke after

 

82.4 - not bad for 7k miles eh fred?

 

First of all, if you want to do a burn out do it in a Mustang or Camaro, not a 360. I know a 360 will do it, and I am sure quite well, but I won't be doing it it my car. Secondley, remember with an F1 the computer doesn't always know your intention, it could have thought you were trying to drive up a steep hill and it slipped the clutch accordingly. As far as the ASR I wish 360's didn't have it, or at least was off by default. And how do you get the display to not glare ASR at you when it is off? Anyone know?

 

Brian,

Is it possible that he floored the throttle, hit the rev limiter several times rapid-fire, and then had the computer shut him down and put him back into neutral to prevent any further damage?

The reason I ask is because I did the exact same thing a couple years ago - no smoke from the tires, lots of smoke in the engine bay, and a new clutch minus whatever I scrubbed off from doing that one launch improperly.

 

Odd I allways drove with my ASR off in my Maserati. Does anyone that's driven both the 4200 Maserati's and 360's know if they are similair systems?

 

Computer wont put car in N.

If the clutch is good and working properly with more or less stock sized tires on dry pavement the car will smoke the tires until you hit the rev limiter if you let it. You can stab the throttle hard and back off quite a ways then roll the throttle back on to keep the tires spinning for a long time. I won a burn out contest that way once. Luca Badoer would have been proud.


It is only if you get timid and don't just nail the throttle to the floor that the clutch will slip.

 

My point earlier - its about not being timid. You can smoke the clutch but only if you're tentative.

 

Colby -

clean your garage - lame avatar

 

At least I have a garage, and I had a great avatar of the back of the car, I thought it looked to much like yours (the car you don't have anymore). I will change it just for you.

 

By having a person who is really up to speed on 360F1's drive it.

The SD provides good guideline when you know the cars history but too many things can render the record in memory useless. If a new TCU was installed clutch wear starts at zero, if some manipulation of parameters is performed in a misguided attempt at making the clutch work better, the number is meaningless, if a new clutch was installed and all the proper steps were not taken via the SD2, again the number is meaningless. It provides a good record only when a good record is kept, acts of human intervention can F it up.

Choosing a person to do a PPI is like choosing a Lawyer, just because he has an SD2 (or a membership to the Bar) does not automatically make him a good choice.

 

Unless you really want to do burnouts just drive it until the it starts to miss shifts and the memory has "Clutch closed beyond PIS" in it, then replace it.

 

On my 360 F1, ASR off + nailing it from a dead stop in 1st yields a big smokey burnout with two long strips. I only tried it once but it was fun! I dont think it really put a lot of wear on the clutch as it locked up very quickly.