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Ferrari Enzo crash in Malibu

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  1. mattymouse33

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  2. mattymouse33

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    Definitely not an F1, if it was then thats possibly a good reason for the crash!

    ;)
     
  3. my355gts

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    Even if they rebuild it, I have a hard time believing that anyone would buy it.
     
  4. ClassicFerrari

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    For the right price there is always a buyer ;)
    Especially this one. It's a celebrity. (Joke)

    Great opportunity to make the ultimate FXX eater I say.

    V.
     
  5. lost won

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    Tires in the crash pics might be original equipment Bridgestone Potenzas.
    Tires, wheels, and accessories are often changed on SEMA display cars depending on which sponsor is paying the freight...
     
  6. david@montechristo.se

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    Stefan Eriksson, chairman of handheld game unit Gizmondo, is the driver of the crashed Enzo in Malibu. Several years ago he was accused of being one of the top dogs of the infamous "Uppsala maffia" with several charges that lead to some convictions. In Sweden, he has been cover news the last months for tricking people into business deals regarding the Gizmondo. Lots of people have been promised great assets in the company and their spent money is gone. One of the leading ad agencies in Stockholm, Ogilvy, has suffered a great deal since they took a bunch of shares in the company as payment for the global ad campaigns.
     
  7. Whisky

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    'First and foremost, no all capitalists in the USA are immoral. I know Marx of Lenin might have tried to teach you differently, but it's not true. Some folks here try to earn their money and they try to do it by the rules.'

    Yeah, right. See Enron, WorldCom, Adelphia, and amy other company where some clown gets a CEO title for a few years and then walks away with a 100 million dollar 'severence' or 'retirement' package, ie Gerstner from IBM or the chick from H-P.
     
  8. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Here's more from today's LA Times:

    Another Turn in Ferrari Saga

    Investigators in the wreck of a showpiece car ask how a small firm started a police department and find that it's quite easy.
    By Richard Winton and David Pierson, Times Staff Writers
    March 8, 2006

    Sheriff's officials investigating the crash of a Ferrari in Malibu last month are asking how a small private transit company could create its own police department and allegedly hand out law enforcement identification to civilians, including the car's owner.

    According to Yosef Maiwandi, it wasn't as difficult as you might think.

    The San Gabriel Valley Transit Authority is a tiny, privately run organization that provides bus rides to disabled people and senior citizens. It operates out of an auto repair shop.

    Maiwandi is the owner of Homer's Auto Service in Monrovia and is also one of three San Gabriel Valley Transit Authority commissioners.

    Maiwandi said he started the nonprofit organization after receiving a bus in a trade for several motorcycles. He decided to use that bus and four others he later purchased to help transport disabled people in his community. The transit agency has memorandums of understanding with Sierra Madre and Monrovia to transport disabled people.

    He said he formed the San Gabriel Valley Transit Authority Police Department shortly afterward in part because he has long been interested in police work. He also found that having a police department allowed him to do background checks on potential volunteers more quickly and seek federal money for security on the buses.

    It is there where the story of the little transit authority intersects with the story of the rare Ferrari, which crashed last month in Malibu.

    The Ferrari's owner, Stefan Eriksson, showed deputies a card stating that he was deputy police commissioner of the San Gabriel Transit Authority Police's anti-terrorism division. A few minutes after the crash, two other men who said they were with Homeland Security appeared at the scene and eventually took Eriksson away.

    "We are just trying to help people," Maiwandi said, adding that he feels his agency is being unfairly tarnished because of his association with the Ferrari crash. "I wish he was driving a Corvette."

    Maiwandi said he came in contact with Eriksson from another member of the transit board, Eriksson's civil attorney, Ashley Posner. Neither Posner nor Eriksson would comment.

    Maiwandi said Eriksson approached him with an offer. Eriksson volunteered to install free surveillance cameras and a "facial recognition scan" — which could compare a person's image to one depicted in a wanted poster — on a bus to show law enforcement agencies how that could be helpful in catching criminals. He said he had given a similar system to transit agencies in England.

    After a background check on Eriksson came back clean, Maiwandi said, he told the businessman he could use the authority's five buses to install the equipment.

    In return for his volunteer efforts, Eriksson was made a deputy commissioner of the police department and given business cards. But Maiwandi denied that the other two men who said they were with Homeland Security had anything to do with his organization.

    Although the department's website suggests that it is a fully functioning police agency, Maiwandi acknowledged that it consists of six people, including himself and the chief, who he said is a former Los Angeles police officer who volunteers his services.

    State public utility regulations allow transit agencies to create police departments — even if they are not certified by the state's central training body for peace officers.

    Typically, such private police departments are established by universities — such as Stanford, USC and Whittier College — or transit agencies like the Napa Valley Railroad.

    But forming a police department is not as big a deal as it might seem.

    State officials said police agencies cannot arrest people unless their personnel meet training and hiring standards set down by state law.

    Most local police agencies are certified by California's Commission on Police Officer Standards and Training. But Alan Deal, a spokesman for the agency, said the San Gabriel Valley Transit Authority Police Department has not been certified.

    Without meeting state standards, a police officer has few powers beyond that of a security guard, who can carry weapons and make citizen's arrests.

    Deal said that his agency has discovered that several railroad agencies around California have created police departments — even though the companies have no rail lines in California to patrol. The police certification agency is seeking to decertify those agencies because it sees no reason for them to exist in California.

    The issue of private transit firms creating police agencies has in recent years been a concern in Illinois, where several individuals with criminal histories created railroads as a means of forming a police agency.

    Eriksson, 44, is a former executive with the video game machine company Gizmondo who left the firm shortly before a Swedish newspaper ran allegations that he had been convicted of counterfeiting a decade before in Sweden. Officials at the Swedish National Police confirmed Tuesday that he has a criminal record.

    No one was injured when the rare Ferrari Enzo smashed into a power pole on Pacific Coast Highway at 162 mph. But the case continues to generate interest because the Ferrari is one of only 400 built, and detectives have struggled to understand what happened.

    Eriksson told investigators he was a passenger in the Ferrari and that the driver was a man named Dietrich, who fled. But officials have been skeptical, noting that Eriksson had a bloody lip and the only blood found was on the driver's side air bag.

    The transit authority is being examined by detectives on the Ferrari case as well as the sheriff's homeland security division.

    And those officials aren't the only one curious.

    Shelly Verrinder, executive director of Access Services, a county agency that provides transportation for the disabled, said she first heard of the San Gabriel Valley Transit Authority more than a month ago when a rider from an advisory committee said she used it.

    Verrinder asked her staff to inquire about the transit authority, thinking that Access might work with the agency in the future.

    So Verrinder had one of her staffers set up an appointment to meet the transit authority last Thursday at the Monrovia location — the auto shop — to receive a tour of the agency's facility. But before they met, a transit authority official called to cancel the meeting, saying that the group was preparing for an audit.

    The rider from the advisory committee was Temple City resident Patricia Lafrance. She said she has used the transit authority buses about a dozen times over the last month.

    "The experience has been wonderful," Lafrance, 63, said.
     
  9. Motob

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  10. MercedesSL600Man

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    Here's a clip I found on wreckedexotics with a computer animation of the crash. Funny thing is the reporter says "exclusive new details about a DEADLY crash...". Actually guy, no one died.
    http://www.cbs2.com/video/[email protected]
     
  11. jamjarman

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    he was lucky he took the red one that day, the black car shows factory belts where as the red car seems to have full harnesses, I think you would have got badly injured at that speed with a mere shoulder belt!
     
  12. Kingpin328

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    Image if that comp. animation was correct and indeed a 330 P4 had been crashed !!?? Thank God it was 'just' an Enzo ....
     
  13. Cannoli

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  14. lost won

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    I think the animation may be seriously flawed. For instance, the car getting neatly cut in half by the pole. First, I don't believe the pole would go between the firewall and the front of the motor without taking the accessory drives off. Post crash pics show these still in place. There are two bars that connect the rear suspension to the intersection of the top of the firewall window and the rear hatch. Both bars survived intact and only the left side is slighly bent. Both separated neatly at the front end connectors, without getting seriously bent. My guess for pole impact would be the left rear tire. The left coilover shock separated. The right did not. The tire/wheel assembly that wound up in the middle of the street is hugely deformed on one side. I think that wheel hit the pole first. All this may be moot. No injuries/fatalities means litigation unlikely; and therefore no need to analyze the crash in detail. Ferrari would likely be the only organization the least bit interested in the technical aspects of the crash. Oh, and I guess me......
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  15. milstanselnino

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    It seems to me that the animation is merely for guesstimation. The pole cut the car in half. Exactly where that occurred is pretty much academic.

    On the other hand, wouldn't an impact such as that cause irreparable damage to the engine casing? I would think the engine is toast.
     
  16. switchcars

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    That's interesting that Ferrari said they could make it "as good as new" for 2-300k....

    Given that number, wouldn't that be fairly close to their cost of building a new one....and wouldn't they pretty much build a new one anyway? It doesn't look like ANYTHING is salvageable.
     
  17. BT

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    Even if there are salvageable parts, using them would not be a good idea. Thee may be unseen damage. Plus the cost of parts is far more than the fractional cost of a new car. If you bought a 348 from the parts bin at Ferrari I think it would approach the cost of a new Enzo. So buying 3/4 of an Enzo from the parts dept. would far exceed the original cost of the Enzo IMO.
    BT
     
  18. whimike

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    I have a theory for the reason Stefan wanted to be involved with this police department also why he showed the cops at the scene his card.

    One of the hardest things to do in California is to get a gun carry permit. But, such a permit is nearly automatic if you are involved with a police organization. So, to cut through the nearly impossible red tape all Stefan had to do was get invovled with this quasi-police department to be able to carry a gun legally. It would also help him to get out of jams, i.e. if caught speeding he could flash his ID and most likely let go without a ticket. Lots of power is gained by being involved with a police organization.

    There was mention of a loaded gun clip being found at the scene. Stefan may have had a gun at the time and was presenting his police business card as a way to difuse the situation if the clip and/or gun were found. Or, showed the card to gain some sort of preferntial treatment.

    Just a possible guess...
     
  19. Admiral Thrawn

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    He might be a crook, but you have to hand it to him - he certainly is crafty.

    All this worldwide media attention, and he's still a free man living it up in Bel Air with his 'other' Enzo...

    I wonder what other aces he has up his sleeve.
     
  20. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Probably true. Jeez this guy's blowing a .09 and even legally drunk he's still coming up witht the fast ones. Apparently he gave Homer's Auto Service some surveillance equipment(plus some cash I'd bet) in exchange for being made deputy police commissioner which gives him the right to carry a gun.

    "Without meeting state standards, a police officer has few powers beyond that of a security guard, who can carry weapons and make citizen's arrests."

    It must be farely well know that being able to carry a gun is one of the benefits of setting up one of these sham police departments.
     
  21. Kenneth34

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    They already have a new projekt in the air... www.xeromobile.com

    Watch your money ;o)
     
  22. gtessier

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  23. mattymouse33

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  25. 3M7M5

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    Thanks for the link!
     

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