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I need an opinion on hose girth...

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  1. away

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    I know innuendo awaits, but I need a judge and jury for a question from this weekend. My friend was washing his car with a probably 1.5 inch width garden hose. (I would say typical hoses are about 1 inch, maybe slightly larger.) He claims the larger diameter flows more water and thus gives him better pressure. I maintain the position that the pressure would be the same if you just used a regular hose because the pump can only flow so much water at once anyway and it all exits through the same sized nozzle opening. I wouldn't even have made an issue of his hose if it weren't for the fact that it looks ridiculous because it's so big and weighs probably twice as much as a typical sized hose.

    Regardless, can a slightly larger diameter hose, for all intents and purposes, give better water pressure?

    I'm willing to admit defeat if I'm wrong but would like to know the answer either way.
     
  2. Aureus

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    I’d think it'd be the other way around. You're get a certain mount of water from the faucet. With a smaller hose its the same amount of water via smaller opening = more pressure. Bigger opening, same water, less pressure.
     
  3. jimpo1

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    Smaller hose will give you higher pressure, but not necessarily more water flow.
     
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    Sorry, this is wrong. smaller nozzle at the end of the hose will give highe pressure, but you want to minimize loss in the hose....

    see above post
     
  6. away

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    Yea that was a far too technical way to end my day. hmmm, I understand the concept, but in this relatively small hose application can there really be a measurable difference? It would seem I'm wrong, however, I don't like that conclusion.
     
  7. Simon^2

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    You opened the link, before the beer didn't you. I warned you...
     
  8. WILLIAM H

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    try some Viagra to increase the girth & pressure :)
     
  9. away

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    took long enough...
     
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    HES KNOWS ABOUT FINDING GURTH AND HE LIKES LONG HOSES.....
     
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    HES KNOWS ABOUT FINDING GURTH AND HE LIKES LONG HOSES.....
     
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    back to the question ........ i can tell you this - im lucky enough to have a 2 inch diameter fire hose but if the opening on the head of the nozzle is the same as the one on the kiddy size hose, the force of water spewing would be the same. when i use my fire hose the same amount of liquid shoots out but has a much larger build up of pressure. when the pressure builds in my hose its like an eruption of mount st helens. my wife can handle the fire hose, she s got bolt ons.
     
  14. brassM3

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    The flow rate from both hoses wil be the same (determined by maximum flowrate from the valve). Flow rate = velocity X cross sectional area of the hose. So in the smaller hose, the velocity of the water will be higher. However, your friend is right, generally larger pipes or hoses do have more pressure (its somewhat counterintuitive because of the difference in velocity). I would think a smaller hose would be more effective because the higher velocity of the water will be more effective at knocking the dirt off the car. Somewhat of a half-assed explanation, hope it helps.
     
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  16. quartermaster

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    Jeff has it partly correct.
    Velocity, pressure, and volume are 3 different things.
     
  17. Simon^2

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    Sorry. he only has it partially correct. when washing a car you only care about pressure at the hose nozzle. to get must pressure there, must reduce loss in the hose, therefore you want a shorter hose of larger diameter...

    see my post above for link to equations if your so inclined...
     
  18. quartermaster

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    Fixed!:)
     
  19. Stephanie

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    Opinion on girth? :D
     
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    oh I think you know..
     
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  24. Stephanie

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    I didn't read the whole thread, I apologize. :(
     
  25. Gilles27

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    I always assumed that a narrower hose would increase pressure, but then I got one of those coil hoses and it sucks. I guess there's a reason garden hoses are the size they are. Way to go Stephanie.
     

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