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  1. awhite

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    hmmmm
    Just curious,

    Is there a system available that would pull codes from a Ferrari (just so you can see what they are ?) vs a full blown SD2 or SD3 ??

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  2. sherpa23

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    If all you want to do is pull codes, there are several options that would work for that. You can also use them to reset CEL's. I guess I'll leave it to others here to elaborate on them as I don't use one as I don't need it for my car and I would not want to say the wrong thing about it's functionality.
     
  3. awhite

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    ok, well what options do I have for just pulling codes ?

    Here is my thing.. I get soft codes all the time, and instead of sending my cars hundreds, if not thousands of miles to my mechanic, I would like to pull the codes to see if they are something that would require the long haul for the car.

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  4. cf355

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    You will require an OBDII scanner to pull the codes and reset the check engine light for a 1996 or newer Ferrari.
    If you key this info into the search engine you should find several recommendations for aftermarket scanners although just any one available ......purchased through your local auto store should work.
     
  5. Nemick

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    I got mine at AutoZone for less than $100.00
     
  6. rmfurzeland

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    Firstly any inspection office can read the codes so you could ask them to do it if you do not want to do yourself.

    Eg I had a code for a faulty air temperature sensor, 2 min job to replace.

    But what I am not sure if the the off the shelf $100 scanner will clear the error codes or whether Ferrari have made this a proprietary process. Need someone on the forum who has actuallly done it to confirm that it works.

    I played safe and got my dealer to clear the code.

    Regards,
    Ron
     
  7. awhite

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    hmmmm
    I am not looking to CLEAR the codes, I just want to know what they are..

    But I have gotten soft codes before (ie, O2 sensor fault) nothing wrong, just soft code.

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  8. Llenroc

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    On the OBD1 ECU you can read the codes any time you want. there is button/switch on each computer. If there is nothing wrong with the system no codes will come up. '89-'95 cars are 2.7 OBD1 and '97-'98 355 challenge. OBD means "on board Dianostics" the codes and what they mean are listed in the wsm. Is that what you are asking? The 96 and later cars are OBD2 and I think they still have the button/switch to activate the code reading and the codes are also listed in the wsm. hope that helps. Regards, Vern
     
  9. Steve King

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    Any OBDII code reader that you can purchase at any auto parts store or even Sears will do the trick. All cars after 95 have a standard universal plug and for the most part have standard codes. These are mostly for the emission system. It is a federal law requiring these systems to be on all US cars and I suspect most cars world wide. There may be a few unique definations for Ferrari but you should be able to get all of the codes from the Web. These readers cost from $50 to $350 and are easy to use. So have features to erase the codes if this is a false read. On the 85-95 cars they had OBDI which was a little different in that you could read the codes through the instrument panal via the flashing check engine light. On these you needed to jumper out a few pins on the connector and count the flashing to get the number. All pretty simple and all you need to do is do it once and you pay for the code scanner. Enjoy the ride
     
  10. awhite

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    so let me ask this then..

    among us, what scanner would you recommend for '99 and newer


    Cheers,

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  11. Llenroc

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    Adam, I have not owned a 360 so have not needed to read the ECUs codes but, have seen on this forum some problems with the newer Ferraris not reacting very well with the aftermarket readers. You should do a search(before you go buy one) about this I think you will find it interesting. Ferrrari seems to be very proprietary about us reading the codes and info stored in the ECUs and they seem to be coding the motronics to be read by there stuff only(SD models). I don't have first hand experiance but have read a little about this problem. I have a 2.7 motronic and can read and service my situation w/o any outside code reader. Regards, Vern
     
  12. Ricambi America

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    Aaron -

    In this month's FCA newsletter, there's a screaming deal on a 360 fully race prepared, INCLUDING an SD2 system. :) That's one way to get the dang computer!
     
  13. cf355

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    The codes for both OBD1 and OBD2 are readily avaible on Ebay.

    You can buy the workshop manuals for both the 355 and 360 on cd for a very modest cost.

    Plus you have the factory service manual should you or your mechanic require it.
     
  14. awhite

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    haha

    Yea thats what I need is "Another" race car :)

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  15. Rifledriver

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    Now I am starting to feel sorry for you. First you ask Dave and he tells you to ask me. I PM you that I've never used one and to ask everybody here.
    I know everyone is trying to be helpful but you just aren't getting the answer you want.


    Hey......Everyone, give him a brand name, he just wants to read codes.
     
  16. ferrarilou

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    For my 2001 360 Spider, I use an Actron PocketScan, like this one:

    < http://www.autobarndeals.com/servlet/the-6475/Actron-PocketScan-OBD-II/Detail >

    Note that my car has already had Ferrari Service Campaign 148 done to it to install the extra ground pin in the OBD connector. Dealer did it for free. I believe this is necessary before you can use an off-the-shelf scanner. The archives have several descriptions of similar modifications, but this is the official one from Ferrari in case it makes a difference to anyone.


    Lou
     
  17. Rifledriver

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    Now we're talkin.

    Thanks Lou.
     
  18. awhite

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    Thats what I am looking fer...

    Thanks lou.. I will get one and see if it does the job!

    -a
     
  19. ILuv4Res

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    If you buy that one, please let us know how/if it works. If it does, I will get one too!!
    Thanks!
     
  20. tstafford

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    I'm interested how it turns out too.
     
  21. ferrarilou

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    Remember, you may need for the dealer to make the ground pin modification (Service Campaign 148) before this will work.


    Lou
     
  22. awhite

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    hmmmm
    It has been ordered and I belive all the service campaigns have been done on all my cars :)

    I will keep all posted!!

    It is arriving on tuesday, so I will test her out then...


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  23. 1badboy

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    FWIW- I recently bought a

    Equus OBD II Code Reader EQU3100 119.95

    from autobarn.com and am very happy with it-

    best of luck what ever you buy.
     
  24. awhite

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    Got it...

    It works GREAT!!!

    I will post some pics shortly..

    anyone have a list of 360 codes ?? or a code list in general ?

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  25. ferrarilou

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    Going to the Search function on this site and typing "360 Code" will result in a list of possible archived threads, one of which is called "360 code file". This thread contains a posting with a posting to a file at
    < http://trentonline.com/Misc/errorcodes.pdf >

    Glad it worked.


    Lou
     

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