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F430 Custom Cupholder

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  1. Fly'n DutchMan

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    #1 Fly'n DutchMan, May 9, 2006
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    For those of non-smokers, check out this slick custom cupholder made specially to replace the ashtray. It's made out of a black rubberized plastic.

    The price on these units is just under $200. Kevin Wrigth at Audio Illusions sells these units and you can install them yourself pretty simply and reinstall the ashtray at a future date if you needed to.(818) 882 1810

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  2. StoryBook

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    I hate to say it but............................THAT IS A GREAT IDEA!! LOL
     
  3. 483hp

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    Wow, that's a great idea. Now if only you could get it in carbon fiber!
     
  4. the_jay

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    I agree- could be the greatest Ferrari mod ever if made in carbon fiber! Or even alluminum trim!
     
  5. Eddie@CavallinoModels

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    im sure valence or macarbon could do it in cf.
     
  6. deeroff

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    let's see CF - for $200 it should be (props to you for getting a custom one-off)
     
  7. THE BEAST 360

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    Its a great idea, but is it possible, just maybe, to have a aftermarket product for a ferrari that wasn't priced outrageously! Please? Im not trying to be cheap, but come on. I'm in for $29.95 and that is still $10.00 to much.
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  8. Hubert888

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    good idea, but $200 for a small piece of plastic is overkill.
     
  9. wmoon89

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    The logo is gone!!!
     
  10. GCalo

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    Who cares that the logo is gone? $200.00 is cheaper than cleaning clothes and having Bob Willis re-detail the interior from a spill!

    I have been working on a folding design with a folding product placed in the same location, but this makes good sense as well.

    I called there but no person answered. Just got a voice mail.

    With a 6 speed this is important!

    It's an "I gotta have it"! Sure hope it fits the 360.
     
  11. drgek

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    The newer cars (at least the Bluetooth equipped ones) don't have the additional 12 volt power outlet, so removing the ashtray kills my ability to recharge the phone if need be. The search for a suitable solution will therefore continue...
     
  12. GCalo

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    It is easy enough to relocate the 12V outlet under the radio!
     
  13. RossoCorsaItaly

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    I don't understand how someone can go to a Ferrari dealer and pay a ridiculous price for a part like say F355 manifolds that cost $6,500 and crack no questions asked. Then call me and ask me to discount a set of NAPerformance manifolds because $3,200 is "too much". Ferrari doesn't even make the Ferrari manifolds, Ansa does. But because it's an "authentic" Ferrari item regardless of the fact that it's a piece of crap, people can justify spending x amount of dollar on it. You wouldn't believe how many Ferrari owners I tell the price of a Tubi or Capristo exhaust to say " Well why are aftermarket exhausts for <insert random Japanese car> only this much?"

    See the thing about Ferrari aftermarket is that very very low quanaties are sold. Some people think this is bullcrap and think it has to do with the price of the car, this is false, I will provide an example below:

    For example a used 3000gt VR-4 can be found for $8k-15k but aftermarket parts cost more than a used Twin Turbo Supra which can cost $25k+ at the minimum for a clean example. Why? Because Supra owners support the aftermarket industry more.

    Why would this guy do the R&D and pay the mold to sell maybe 10 or 15 of these cupholders for $29.95. Now if it was like say the Civic aftermarket where he could make 20,000, they could be sold at $29.95.

    The manufacturers of aftermarket Ferrari parts don't make more profit in general, they sell less meaning they don't get quanity discounts on materials and there are less units being sold to divide the R&D by.


    This post wasn't a personal attack towards you, I'm just trying to explain the real reason why Ferrari aftermarket parts cost more than other aftermarket parts.

    And if you feel that $29.95 is still $10 too much maybe you can profitably sell cupholders for $29.95 to F430 owners, put me down for 5.


    My vent for the day.
     
  14. GCalo

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    Kevin,

    All very well stated.

    As I had mentioned in another post with respect to Ferrari costs, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

    Many times development costs are not recovered on an item until many are sold, and $200.00 for this probably does not even cover the cost.

    When Lockheed built the L-1011, they projected to break even on the sale of 500 airplanes. They made 250 total, and then they additionally took a $90 million tooling write off when they finally shut down the line.

    Sometimes you can't win for trying.

    $200.00 is a bargain for this item.

    Kevin Wright where are you?
     
  15. carbon_00

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    I want one..can you post better pics showing it without bottle and not installed in car..thanks !

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  16. GCalo

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    Two phone calls there, two voice mails, and now an actual reply from Kevin!

    Ok here's the update.

    The unit is made of rubberized plastic and fits 430, 360, 355 456, and 550.

    Price is : $149.00

    Send postal money order to:

    Audio Illusions
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    You can easily relocate the 12 volt connector.
     
  17. Fly'n DutchMan

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    #17 Fly'n DutchMan, May 10, 2006
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    Gary, the solution is simple, you just run a lead to either relocate the cigarette lighter, or install install one dangling between the seats. See picture below. That way you can have the phone charger out of the way as well.

    While you're at it you have the V1 hardwired also.
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  18. Fly'n DutchMan

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    Post like this are embarrasing to the forum... you figure at this level in the game people would understand the economies of scale that go into designing, tooling and batch producing a unique speciality item like a cup holder adaptor for a very limited application.

    If you prefer to carry your Evian... err...I mean.... your self-bottled, low-cost filtered water from the coin-op vending machine outside the Whole Foods.... in your hand while driving, then you might as well spare yourself the $159.00 as well for the cup holder. Why hell, that's $159 left over to spend on Value-Paks of single-ply toilet paper.
     
  19. deeroff

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    I agree with your post; however, note that most posters do not own Ferraris, let alone a 430 that would make their posts relevant (or even thought-provoking).
     
  20. GCalo

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    To me it is irrelevant what non-owners post.

    What is relevant is the fact that this is a neat device, it is available, it is reasonably priced, and it is fully functional.

    I need a secure place for my diet coke while shifting!

    Let the others eat cake!
     
  21. Harmonyautosport

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    I can make them in dry carbon fiber for $250, dont weight your car down with heavy plastic;)
     
  22. THE BEAST 360

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    It seems to me that the people that are getting angry with me are people that don't own a Ferrari, as per there public profiles. GCalo doesn’t own a Ferrari, but he does Sell Ferrari parts at www.dynamtechgroup.com. MVP has a shop car and works for MVPEurosports Ferrari/Maserati Specialist. Fly'n DutchMan has "only 1/10 Scale" of a Ferrari and is in sales and leasing.

    Now if I am wrong about what I just Quoted and one of you actually owns a Ferrari I truly am sorry. However, It would seem to me that ALL of you are using this forum for personal profit in one-way or another. I am a Ferrari enthusiast that tries to HELP others on this forum and to LEARN from others and not TAKE ADVANTAGE of others. It seems to me that you are so fast to criticize me so you can justify your market of high priced aftermarket products for sale for us owners to buy. Personally, if I invented the product I would sell it as inexpensively as possible to hopefully HELP out my fellow Ferrari friends. Not profit from them.
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  23. GCalo

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    Nate,

    Let me correct you on a few things:

    1) I do own a 2000 360 coupe as well as three other high end cars.

    2) As to your statement "ALL of you are using this forum for personal profit in one-way or another", there is some truth to that, but also most of us try to impart very valuable information and/or assistance to others in return. There is a balance. Does Rob give away sponsor ads? This is what makes it possible for you to make the claims you do on this forum.

    3) I sent a check to become a Silver member to do my part to help maintain this forum. I offered to send Rob $100 per year to maintain the forum's viability. Did you?

    4) Your statement "if I invented the product I would sell it as inexpensively as possible to hopefully HELP out my fellow Ferrari friends" is a very naive approach and indicates business inexperience on your part. That may be part of the reason why you may be "criticized". Does Ferrari give away the cars?

    Business is what makes the world fly. If you are willing to work 60-65 hours per week and then put most of your assets on the line to make your business run, your profiting just might change your mind about "not profit from them".

    Whether the item is $150 in plastic or $250 in carbon, it's still a bargain, and if you have neither a Ferrari or the $ to buy the item in question, why are you then complaining to those who do and who can?

    And BTW, your description of what I do sell is only partially correct.
     
  24. RossoCorsaItaly

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    Why are you personally analyzing everybody? Can you please elaborate on what that has anything to do with low-volume manufacturing?

    You said $29.95 is still $10 to much. If you think you can spend the money and do the R&D and make the mold and manufacture cupholders for $19.95 and sell 20-30 a year and still come out on top, you know absolutely nothing about low volume manufacturing. And if you think this is possible, then please do it and "help" the Ferrari community out.

    And if you want to get personal about this, I just sold my 2002 Maserati Spyder and I'm in the market for an 02-03 Maserati Coupe GT or a 95 F355GTB in yellow or white, why does it matter? Is my opinion not valid because I don't drive a F430?
     
  25. THE BEAST 360

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    I do own a Ferrari 360, and I do have the money to buy the items I think are worth spending the money on.

    I have an idea, put the Cup holder on EBay no reserve and lets see what it gets. That is a good way to see what it is worth. Also do you have any pictures of the inside of cup holder, is there something to hold the water bottle still or is it going to spill when you hit the gas.

    PS. You might want to update your Public Profile to include the Ferrari you own; I’m not so concerned about your other high-end cars. Full Name:
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