Ever tell a girl she needs a nose job, or to change anything else?

I can't resist a straight-line: "Do you look fat in what? Summer?"

With women's appearance, the best policy is "Don't Ask, Don't Tell".

(You never hear a guy say "I hate my hair". I mean, as long as it's still there ... (Jeff Foxworthy))

 

If she found a guy who loved her as she is and not based on how she looks, I wouldn't call that settling. Your other friend will hopefully become enlightened and realize you are shallow and not worth her time.

 

Hahahaha!!

 

Oh no. Now I know why all my friends are engaged and I'm not.

 

Yes. Clearly I must be hideous.

 

There was a girl i knew that had a face like a donkey.. of course everyone knew her nickname was 'donkey face' however no one ever said it until i did, when i got angry at her for stealing some of my property and not being entirely honest she'd taken it..
It was like a bomb had exploded, but honestly i couldnt care. The fact of the matter was, SHE was damm ugly..

 

I miss John too. Epecially with threads like these.

 

nobody "needs" any cosmetic surgery, per se. telling a girl she's fat, well, it depends how fat. I tell skinny girls they're fat all the time because everyone knows i'm joking. Telling a fat girl shes fat is just...blunt.

 

Men love women they're attracted to, women are attracted to men they love. I really do believe this. Guys are shallow.

I know a girl in the situation you mentioned as well. She was really self-concious about herself, got engaged then married, lost ~20-30lbs and is a new person, except that now she's married to a selfish man-child who won't go back to college.

 

hahahhahaahhahahhahaahahahaahahahahha *breath* hahahahhahahahahahahhahahha

 

Umm..let's not get carried away with the self-deprecating feminist SNAG attitude. Yes, men are shallow in that we often look for looks in a mate. By the same token, women often look for money and status in a mate. I'd say that sort of criterion is equally shallow, if not more so.

Both men and women look for "deeper" things in their mate/long term partner (or at least most of them do). Stuff like intelligence, personality, compassion, fidelity, humor, etc. There's really nothing to separate us here.

A lot of the misunderstanding from this thread seems to spring from not realising the difference between what a person looks for in a life partner vs. what a person looks for in a date. Would I marry a hot dumb blonde? No way. Would I date her briefly? Of course! Women often think the same way, too. I know many women who would date hunky, handsome guys with not much upstairs just to get him into the sack to sample the goods. To the modern woman, a first date is hardly a prelude to marriage, usually it's just about having fun, just like it is for the guy.

Basically, we can't help what we want from the opposite sex - it's just evolutionary biology. All the confusion comes from our need, as thinking beings with pretensions to being something qualitatively different from other animals, to rationalise our innate drives to ourselves and to others in an intellectually palatable way.

 

I'll agree with some points here.. many of my mates have never had gf's simply because they have thier standards waaaay too high.. and until they lower thier standards and become a little more mature, then they're not going to get very far..

 

Yeah but when Kim and I got Zach's hopes up and then stood him up after his old girlfriend dumped him, that wasn't funny?

 

I was once told (by a woman) that the worst thing anyone could say to a woman is "you're ugly". So I decided to try this out. Once, I was in a Denny's late at night and this drunk girl in the next booth got all mouthy with me over something. The whole thing escalated to a point where I screamed "you're ugly!". Next thing I know this full glass of iced tea missed my face by about a half-inch and shattered on the wall behind me. She started crying and swearing at me after that.

Security kicked her out and subsequently banned her from Denny's. Truth was, she wasn't all that bad-looking at all. I got to finish eating, the staff apologized to me and I got a free meal.

RMX

 

Banned from the Denny's? You heartless bastard.

 

This makes sense to a certain extent... It's kind of hard to love someone you've just met though... I think men are attracted to what looks good; and women are attracted to what will make them feel good... Most men think a small waist and big, fake chest muffins are what looks good; so that's what they go for... Women like broad shoulders - something they'll feel safe in at night - or big, strong arms that they'll feel comforted by in a hug... Of course, keeping your Ferrari key and key chain on the bar while you chat probably won't hurt either - but that's all subjective...

 

People tell me I have high standards, and I do. I may be shallow, w/e. All I know is, I am attracted to what I am attracted to. Meaning, I like what I like, and it is not something I can just change. If I think you are ugly, there is no changing that.