very nice mercedesamg...but it looks similar to the 360...which may be a bad thing... try to diffrientiate the dino a little bit more because i see alot of the 360/dino/honda civic si front lights. I'm not putting you down, i admire your design. its just my take on it. but great looking vehicle nontheless....keep it coming!
You are right Michiel here are my earlier rough sketchs Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Maybe we need a blueprint of a potential chassis design. over to base more realistic sketches. We need a wheelbase layout, can we use the the Lotus Exige/Elise dimensions ? it will make it easier for everyone to sketch on real parameters, and work on more realistic renderings. I think that the wheels on all my sketches look like 23/24 inches in dimension !!!, maybe 17 or max 18in. should be considered. Michiel let us know if the Elise dimensions can be considered as a design parameter. Ciao
The Elise is too small. Exact measurements are not very important yet. During this ideation stage we're still in search of proportions, the character of the design, the features our concept must have and so on.... When we have determined how are concept must be, need4speed will provide us with a picture of the cabin with two persons in it where we can build the package around it. For now, not much is decided yet and I don't want to limit the designers in this stage too much. First I want some very innovative designs to choose from. But if you really need some measurements, use the Cayman S as our target.
In more ways than one - that is exactly the market segment the Dino should target - and a difficult one at that.
Using a horizontal radiator in front will help with front end crashworthiness and aerodynamics but leaves less room for luggage. It will also allow you to lower the nose if you wish.
Lowering the nose is exactly what i want to achieve. I'm willing to sacrifice room for luggage. I'd rather leave some luggagespace behind the seats and behind the engine. Space above the engine like the Cayman has is something I don't want, because I'd like to show the engine trough the bonnet.
Wow! Thanks! Your first post on Fchat and allready such a great contribution! Keep them coming please! Welcome here on Fchat!
Here's another sketch idea for you, tried to keep it curvy, clean and not to aggressive as you've mentioned. I like the 599's flying buttresses and thought something similar might look good on a mid engined car. Also the mid-line accents would be chrome to add to the classic feel. Some ideas anyway - good luck! Image Unavailable, Please Login
Rakesh Are you the Mg Rover designer that sketched the Lamborghini Miura proposal for EVO Magazine in 2005? By the way nice sketch
I'm sure I've come across Rakesh's name somewhere before, but not sure where - I also read Evo, so that maybe it. SingleServingJack - I really, really like the way your design looks, would love to see it developed further - maybe with some of the curves over the wheels lowered/elongated slightly. I'm loving this thread, keep the great work coming guys. Also, on another thought about the Cayman S being the main rival, I've just read Autocar's review of the BMW Z4M Coupe and I feel from what was said that it should also be considered a formidable rival to a new Dino. They said it is less composed overall than the Cayman, but has a rawer edge - maybe something a Ferrari should have, although I believe the original Dino was closer in character to the Cayman than the BMW - more focussed on handling perfection than aggression. Food for thought anyway. Also mentioned was that BMW only intend to sell 200 Z4M Coupes per year in the UK (not sure about international figures). EDIT: Actually looking at it again Jack, I think what I was getting at would be served better by raising the line of the curve in the middle of the door slightly - this would have the effect of elongating the 'bow wave' curve you've used to make the line of the car more fluid and less like 3 separate sections (front fender, door, rear fender). Sorry if I sound like I'm ripping your work to pieces (that's not my intention - I think your design is amazing), it's just hard to express my thoughts clearly and concisely using written English!
A more detailed rendering: I'm working on some more views and a spider aswell. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Michiel, very nice. I like the front in particular; more like the 206SP than the production car and thankfully not overly long. Is the break between the upper main body and the lower(disecting the side scoop) a hard line as in your shape 8 ? that's something the 206/246 had that I think helped make it look lower. also in your sketch the reverse butress was more pronounced, which I prefer. Is it possible to make the central form a bit lower? As it is, the greenhouse doesn't seem as well located as on the original (perched not anchoured) and the glass area seems about 5% less than ideal. lastly, as I mentioned before and this is highly personal, I really liked the longish rear overhang of the 206/246. I gave it a unique look and a very decent sized boot. I'll attach your shape 8 so that others know what I'm talking about! also, as per your earlier posts about "Dino" clones, I've attached one from Brazil. finally, the BMW 3 shooting brake on your webpage is terrific; the first BMW I've seen in years that I'd consider---fabulous--cheers-rick Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login