Need salvage 355

was it this one? From what this post shows may be a 348 frame?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90388&highlight=355+bond

 

OMG, no offense but good luck. That car needs a LOT of expensive items to make it driveable again.

 

Ebay, or perhaps TRutlands (http://www.trutlands.com/), or www.FerrariService.ws

You should read the linked thread first, and make a careful inspection of your car. I'd hate for you to be driving in something that may be unsafe.

 

People do this all of the time, which is why wrecked Ferraris go for such a premium...you've got dreamers who think that they can rebuild them and builders who need wrecked parts.

My advice, useless to you at this point, is to do the research on what you'll need and where to get it (and the costs) first, then buy a "project" car second, if ever...rather than buying the project car only to learn that a used 355 engine and transmission will set you back $20,000 to $25,000...used interior pieces and gauges another $5,000 to $7,500, etc.


Pay $27,000 for a project 1989 Ferrari 348 (it only looks like a 355), another $32,000 for parts, and suddenly you have a $59,000 pile of Ferrari parts that when put together for free (i.e. your labor), is worth the price of a Salvage-Titled 1989 Ferrari 348 Berlinetta (i.e. worth about $28,000 retail).

But it happens all of the time.

The dreamers don't realize that Ferraris are worth more when sold off as parts than when sold as a running car...dreamers are competing with other dreamers as well as with professional rebuilders...both groups wind up bidding up the prices of project Ferraris.

It's an expensive way in to Ferrari ownership, even if your labor is free.

The research on this subject is out there on-line...but that's just the thing...Ferraris are an emotional purchase...they are like getting married...no rational reason for doing what you do with Ferraris...you just have to love them.

I do.

But love causes people to do things spontaneously, many times without doing the research first.

Good luck with your project. Very few get completed.

However, if you want to see people who've got it worse, drive over to any small airport where you'll find countless hangar rats still trying to put together their 20+ year-long project airplanes!

The aviation business has got Ferrari beat all to pieces in cost of the hobby and cost/time for a project completion.

One saving grace is that you'll have little problem selling your projects chassis when/if you decide to quit...unless you paid too much of premium, of course.

 

Autoholic -

You've bitten off quite a project. That particular car has been discussed on this board across a few threads. Let's think for a moment all you'll need is an engine.

Well, you're in luck. First, here's the engine cradle for a F355 currently $1,000 on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FERRARI-F355-ENGNE-CRADLE-1999_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ46098QQihZ006QQitemZ160007163491QQrdZ1

then we have the engine itself out of a purportedly burned out engine bay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FERRARI-355-USED-V8-ENGINE-AND-6SPED-TRANS-WITH-FIRE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ46098QQihZ005QQitemZ150012159438QQrdZ1

then all you'll need to make it run is a fuel injection system. Engine harnesses may be hard to find, but here's an ECU:

http://cgi.ebay.com/FERRARI-MOTRONIC-355-ECU-MODIFIED-COMPUTER-410-HP_W0QQitemZ300006430629QQihZ020QQcategoryZ33596QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Alternately, you could just invest in a Motec or Electromotive or other programmable EFI with a home made engine harness and you should be good to go.

Since I don't know you from Adam (and you only have one post), I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you have the enthusiasm, patience and resources (read: money, space, time, tools, money) to pour into this project. I've built cars before and rarely is it as easy as one might think at first.

As Ferrari enthusiasts, we would love to be kept abreast of your progress

 

There's always someone to talk you out of your dream. Hang in there, open your wallet, be patient, and you'll get-r-done!

 

Ahhh, you're right Bruce. I should be encouraging him. My bad. Sorry.

 

Autoholic, the car is a 348 made to look like a 355, I know some of the history of this car and can put you in touch with the UK company that built it up for the film. Check also the suspension quality, straightness and type also IIRC wheels were all write offs with dented inner rims etc

 

t. rutland has a 355 challange turnover it's all there!

 

Tell me the price mor or less for a ferrari f355 gtb f1 from september of 1998, is a red unit with black leather and 26.000 km, only 1 owner and 10.000 km service (need 30.000 km service) this unit is in spain and no need to pay taxes. thank you very much.

 

Antonio is it on UK plates? I am assuming it is LHD. I am not sure exactly but I would say about £42,000?

This is a good website in the UK to check what cars are for sale at what price, www.autotrader.co.uk It may ask you for a postcode if it does try N1 0QH (that's a zero before the Q!)

 

The car is in Málaga and is LHD, is 42.000 pounds arround 63000 euros? this unit is on sale for 75.000 euros, is so expensive maybe? saludos.

 

Spanish plates.

 

VFFNA41B000082328

Assumethe V is really a Z. On the face of it that looks like a Euro 355b that was built alongside a 89' 348 - thus peoples confusion. Most 355's are in the 100000+ assy number range. Is it possible this was a Ferrari development car?

 

Check the chassis number on the car. The car that others have referenced in the links above has a chassis number that coincides with the early 89 348 run. The 348 and 355 shared the same platform, so I'm not sure what difference that makes - if any - since when your project is complete it will have a 355 drivetrain, interior, suspension, body panels, etc.

What would be really interesting, time permitting, is to start a thread on here with pictures and updates on your project. It would be neat to see the transformation from movie prop to daily driver. This site has a lot of great resources and info to help you along your journey - good luck with the project and let us know how it goes!

 

there is a 1995 355 B with a salvage title near me, in fairfax, va. it is being sold for cheap. search cars.com with the zip code 22102. it is complete and running, providing you with the parts you need to get your car completed.

john

 

Hey, this guy is "saving" a genuine Bond, James Bond, Ferrari car! Wow.. in many years it will cross the auction block for big bucks....hey isn't there some other thread here where a guy is looking for the Magnum PI 308? what if it did turn up sans engine and interior...what would such a genuine magnum PI chasis go for....anyone...Bueler? ( and that would be froma TV show and a 308!...this at least is from a huge budget movie and is a 355!)

 

I also followed the last thread on this car, and am still a bit confused. has it been determined whether this car is a 348 or a 355 chassis.

Does autoholic need a salvage 348?

or worse yet both? perhaps need 348 engine/trans etc, but need 355 dash lights etc., and a mix of interior parts.

Autoholic, my recommendation:

Take a thorough inventory of what you have.
Compile a thorough list of what you need.

Proceed accordingly.

As others have said, if you do go through with this, it would be a very interesting thread to follow...

 

Didn't see this on cars.com, any more info?

Also, I think the movie car in question was not a "James Bond car," but a barely shown background prop from a villain's lair. There is a different 355 (red targa I think) in another Bond film that is actually driven by a hot brunette. I may be wrong, but the car in question here is the yellow "355," right? So it would not have the same appeal as the (a) Magnum P.I. 308, which the star actually drove.

 

The VIN would lead me to say it is a 348 with 355 door panels etc... on it. This could be good news, as Plugzit has a 348 engine for sale very reasonably priced. If you are looking for an assembly plate on an early 348 you might be out of luck. Although they supposedly started putting them on at the beginning of the 348 run, there is none on my early 1989 348 (vin 82608). Good luck, and try thinking outside the box if you run into difficulties!

BT

 

£42,000 is about 61,000 euros. 75,000 euros seems expensive but I don't know what the market is like down here. If you are looking for one, LHD cars in the UK are priced quite a bit below RHD. You could probably pick up a nice one for £40,000 or less. If it helps with comparison for you I just bought a 2003 360 Modena F1, with 30,000 km for 94,000 euros in Gibraltar, it was originally sold by Salamanca. Thats why for only 19,000 euros more than the 355 it seems like the 355 you mention is overpriced by quite a lot.

 

The last 5 digits show it as a 348. The other part of the VIN is probably confusing because early 348's didn't always come with the factory "build plate" (see BT's post above) that would have the whole VIN.

The good news is that 348's have cheaper, and fewer, parts than 355's. The 348 uses cables, for instance, from your gearshift to your tranny. The 355 uses rods.

The 355 transmission is a 6 speed, the 348 typically uses a 5 speed.

The 348 has no power steering, no power shocks, no power seats. The 355 is power everywhere.

Since all of that is missing from your chassis, it will make a difference. You may also find that your particular 348 has had its engine bay welded up with extra stiffening components (for movie action shots) that may not be compatible with putting an engine back into said engine bay.

Before spending more money on engine/tranny/etc, you should take a good look into the engine bay of your chassis.

Likewise, you're going to need to see if the film company had the fuel tank removed...especially before you start cutting out metal and re-welding!

I'd love to see pictures of your progress. so few projects ever get completed that it's refreshing to see someone actually procede with due diligence!