WHY ARE SOME OWNERS SO ARROGANT

Yes, they view and treat their cars like appliances.

 

You're lucky you didn't ask him what kind of mileage it got!

 

Or if he had an 'extra' speedometer lying around?

 

if I had a 5k mile car
I wouldn't take it to service neither

no matter what the dealer say.

let alone the engine-out service sounds like BS to me

 

+1

 

I'm not looking for a perfect 348, but man, this one made me harvest a bit of my computer chair......

 

Surely the point of the engine out service/belts change is because belts age with time as well as use? The consequences of a snapped belt would be a hell of a lot more costly than an engine out service, especially on a car with 5 valves per cylinder.

As for the image/status symbol thing, have you guys heard of Wayne Rooney - the Manchester United/ England player who was sent off against Portugal in the World Cup? Rumour has it that his girlfriend wanted to buy him an Aston Vanquish, but because of the image he has, Aston wouldn't sell her one, so she had to buy him a used one instead.

 

I understand your point of view entirely, being a car detailer here in Australia
I get all sorts of arrogant pricks as you would say.

sometimes i say to myself , you don't deserve that car !
Why would someone vent there arrogance to someone who is about to buy
there car ?

I wouldn't buy it ! It's just a matter of principal !

 

Eventually, some meek individual will call on that car and be intimidated into buying it.

 

I have a customer currently looking for a 355 that had this same thing happen to him from a well known FNA dealer last week. This is a dealer that I respect and know the tech quite well so I will get to the bottom of it and find out which sales guy is responseable for this foolishness.
Seems this guy subscribes to the theory that "He who yells the loudest is the smartest". He stated that there were never and guide issues, header issues, cat issues and shrinking dash problems, they were all made up by internet fools. I just finished a major on a 5K mile 348 (its first service) where the belts "looked" perfect when removed (there always seems to be lucky people out there). Spectacular car that will take some de-bugging as all of the 348's required when they were new. Thank goodness the car is in the hands of someone that will take good care of it now.
Funny how the market has changed in the last 30 yrs. I do not remember this type of thought process back then.

Dave

 

A_men to that!

 

Agree.
BT

 

The service requirements with belt driven Ferraris is a little bogus, designed to create service revenue while giving supposed peace of mind to the owner. The truth is, a lightly but regularly driven car doesn't need an engine out belt service at 5,000 miles. The problems arise with cars that are absolutely dormant. Rubber dries and becomes brittle and the bigger problem is tires that flat spot and gunk that builds up in the engine and carbs.

Personally i believe that cars that are driven tend to be just fine without the ridiculous contortions required in a major service for an engine that has 30,000 miles on it. When your car is 6 years old but has a 1,000 miles a year of steady driving on it, it really doesn't need a major. Regular fluid changes once a year or so will be just fine.

 

Don't forget that Ferraris are oriented to KAPITALIST countries
or rich guys around the world

throwing out money is what Kapitalism or being rich is all about.

 

Do they spend large amounts of money on cars ???

 

I had this suspicion until May of this year. It is wrong.

My 98 355 Spider has 24k on the clock, driven regularly and evenly throughout its life. I had postponed the service knowing the prevailing wisdom was 5 years for belts. I had intended to do the service in January and put it off until I got my TR back from its major service. Bad decision.

In May, the car tore 7 teeth off the left bank timing belt. It happened as I was idling over a speed bump in my bank parking lot, so the engine was turning as slowly as possible. The resulting damage killed 8 exhaust valves and 2 intake valves. The repair was five digits from a good, relatively inexpensive independent mechanic. I'm guessing it would have been double that at a dealer. Had the engine been turning near redline, I probably would have been buying pistons, more valves, maybe rings, maybe a head. Could easily have been $20-30k in repairs, and that's from just one bank trashing.

Does a 5,000 mile car need a timing belt service? At two years, probably not. At 5 years it becomes cheap insurance. The things you mention like dry rot and fluid coagulation happen at different rates depending on car, climate, driving style, etc. A good major service would have cost me about half this repair, and wouldn't have disabled the car for nearly three months while damage was assessed and parts were ordered.

I'm sure everyone can provide examples to back up their opinion, but my own is that, especially for people like me who are buying the cars used because they can't (or won't) pay new prices for them, they are not in a position to be spending this kind of money on repairs. I am lucky in that I planned for this contingency and that I have a reasonably priced quality mechanic to do the repairs, but I will not push any of my cars past the commonly accepted service intervals again, and I certainly would not buy a car from someone who had the attitude about maintenance that was given at the top of this thread.

 

glad I own a che'vette

 

First: Your a communist.

Second: If it weren't for bad old Kapitalist USA, Mexico would have a GDP equivelant to a small restaraunt chain.

 

To me, the overall point was missed. The potential buyer asked if the factory recommended service was done. The answer was no. To me that fact and the sellers attude towards maintanence should be considered in the seller's decision to buy and the amount of his offer.

Regarding whether there service should be done according to the schedule: You have not lived with the car nor do you know how it was driven previously. In my opinion, if you intend to drive the car, make sure all of the services are current when you first buy it (and that you have confidence in the mechanic that did the service).

Regards,

Art S.

 

Do I deserve to real all this
just because I felt the maintenance on Ferraris is absurd and ridiculous expensive