Little Fun Run with a new Z06

Of course, all tongue in cheek.......Ok I'm over it. Truce??

 

Truce

 

Typical Corvette stereotype guy always has something to prove with his car that its the best, the fastest and the best car for the $$.

If you want to talk pecking order its much more prevalient at Corvette functions I went to a few years back when I had my last Vette, the early 60s big block guys thought they walked on water and wouldn't talk to the newer owners, eack respective group kept to themselves.

 

Did you ever think for one second that he wasnt pushing his car to the max becasue you were on the street?

I cant believe no one blasted you for acting stupid on the public roads


How man times do you get a crotch rocket pull up next to you and want to race? happens alot around here but im a Marine so alot of guys are comming back from combat with alot of money and no brains t back it up because they are now invinciable!
Most have little to no experience on a bike wanting to race on the street stupid!!!

Even though we are required to take the MC safety course but that doesnt help with retardeness

Im not dumb I know what will kill my vette a bike 9 times out of ten will do just that
Not to many ferraris rolling around here and the only one I have ever seen was owned by a friend of mine He had a 86 328 GTS

Im just not into the New Vettes I like the older ones I have a 1990 ZR1 a chevy that held the 24 endurance records for many years and the ONLY production car to ever have the honor to hold that title.


Oh well I will have a ferrari someday but I cant bring myself to buy a Z06 right now because I refuse to pad the dealers pockets with cash over MSRP for a car that is one the first year run and I hate buying new and lossing the cash spent for the new car smell go huff some glue if your looking for the newest toy on the block I like classic better

I like the car but im not overly impressed with the look yet still has to grow on me.


As for the ZR-1s they were suppost to target the "supper car buyers " and they did the car kicked ass but like any corvette it doesnt get the respect it should.
even though in late 1989 these corvettes were selling for over $100,000 and stickered for $65,000 thats insaine, any one care to figure that in todays dollars?

but GM only built just under 7,000 ZR1s over a 5 year period 90-95, I believe that GM built over 7,000 Z06s this year.


How many 360s did ferrari put out this year?
or F 430's


Oh well ill hold out for my carbed late 70's boxer......someday it will happen

That is a beautiful sound not a 355

 

J.P.Sarti can’t read good. I tried to write this real slow as I know you can't read too fast

What is the last corvette you had?

They don't fall apart after several 1000 miles. Total BS.

First of all, at 6 digit milage, no cracks and secondly, no real rattles. Again what are you talking about! You haven’t seen stress cracks on 97 and up Corvettes, you’re a) making up BS based off old stories from old fiberglass Corvettes or b) saw a car that was hit or wrecked.

Your bias is so strong it stinks.

The nose and rear reinforced reaction injection molded. 5mph hit and it goes back to its regular shape within 2 hours on its own, happened to me personally. The hood is sheet molded compound, so are the fenders, doors, the top, etc. The stuff does not get stress cracks and the cars chassis, an innovation of its time with the largest hydroformed pieces ever used, is so stiff that the car doesn’t stress all over in the first place! The current C6 is further strengthened from that standard.

So come back to reality and 2006 please. That being said, I like Ferrari and many other performance cars, just don’t know why so called car enthusiasts go around making up stuff about other cars or calling names and making blanket statements based off the car someone drives?

 

Don't sweat the comments from one poster. I think most people here appreciate the performance of the Corvette. I also think most people here recognize the improvements made over the years to the Corvettes. thanks for the info, I did not know that the newer Corvettes are not simply fiberglass bodied cars. Sometimes the fact that this is Ferrarichat will blind people to all that is outside of Maranello.

BT

 

I think you should go back and look at this thread again. 1st of all who started this BS. It wasn't a Vette owner. 2nd everything I've personally said was in response to the piles of BS some of the other Ferrari owners were saying. How does that equate to being a stereotypical corvette guy trying to prove something. It sounds to me like you are the stereotypical Ferrari guy who's ego can't handle other people having something as nice as you. Get over yourself! there are a lot of great cars out there other than Ferraris or Vettes, period. A lot of them are not only faster and better made, but are more expensive. SO WHAT! I don't understand why guys like you can't accknowledge a great piece of engineering when they see it.

 

Really? You have a bit of short term memory loss. How about this statement from your very first post of the thread.

"Now Brothers I’m sure I’m going to get really flamed because of this. There is a lurking Bunch of Corvette owners, (that have no intention of ever owning an f-car) that regularly cruise our chat groups, mostly to asses us, impress us with there performance specs and Make themselves feel good."

Come on now, you know that statement was intended to stir things up. Well, it did so don't complain about the outcome. You got what you asked for. I will say though that you did a pretty good job of smoothing things over several posts later.

 

That wasn't a stupid insult.....this is all in good fun. Besides I want a consultants fee for giving you a bright idea.

Indytech, you made some comments that many people find laughable. Example: I am 5'3 and 135lbs and say something like this....I went into a gym last week and Lennox Lewis was there sparring a few rounds. He asked me if I wanted to spar so I went in there and it was very close. The truth I could have kicked his ass all over the ring.
You say something that does not add up and people are going to call you up on it. They will also have a great time with you. The first minute I saw your post I knew it would be a field day.

 

Typical Corvette guy? You want to know what that is? Here's a little story.

I was in a local Vette club for a couple of years. Even landed them a dealership sponsor. A friend of mine, who is in love with performance cars, sold his Vette and bought a Viper. While driving around in his Viper one day, we spotted said club in a large parking lot, having a show. Seeing as how we both love cars, we decided to stop in and look at them. We were greeted with much hostility. All we wanted to do was look at the damn cars! But, because we pulled up in a Viper, they copped an attitude. What a bunch of bitter old ****ers. One of them even went through the trouble of moving an enclosed trailer in front of my friend's Viper to block it from view. Get a life *******. This hasn't been an isolated event either. I've experienced this attitude while driving my 348. I don't get it much from Porsche, Viper, Lambo..etc owners, but it seems to come from owners of Vettes and M3's.

The sad thing is, I love Vettes, and I love to talk about them with their owners. But sometimes, these guys just make it difficult to like them.

 

Gee you think? I mean, it isn't a Vette Forum afterall.

 

The bodyshop that has painted several of my cars gets newer Vettes in all the time many have stress issues and cracks, he even has a newer Vette as well, believe what you want..

 

Like I said Vette guys always trying to prove their car is better than everything else including Ferraris.

I thought you sold your 348 and don't own a Ferrari anymore? Didn't you get all PO'd when you posted about your new Vette and selling the Ferrari claiming the Vette is so much better and a flame war started on this quite awhile back?

 

Finally, a thread comes where I can speak with some authority...

I own both one of the last ZR1 Corvettes as well as one of the last C5 Z06 Corvettes. I have driven the C6 and passed on it for the time being. I am making arrangements for a Testarossa or maybe a 512TR.

My reasons -

1. I do not pay 15,000 over retail sticker for any car, anywhere, whatsoever. That is a sucker bet. You can do better on the slots in Bosier City, LA. The poor doctor that bought my ZR1 off the floor here locally paid more than 100K for it. I did not. And, IMHO, the markup on new F-cars is equally ridiculous.

2. The new Z06 is undoubtedly fast (so was the C5 Z06, in its own way), but both are still a relatively unrefined pushrod motor car. So with the Viper. I would rather drive the ZR1 any day, but I guess the time of the DOHC Corvette died along with the career of Dave McLellan.

3. I also admit this freely - I want to be seen in a car that looks the part. This was the problem with the ZR1 all along, and GM has repeated the mistake with the new Z06. It is just not different enough from your girlfriends automatic convertible C6.

4. As for subject #1 of the thread, as Chuck Yeager once said, "it's the man, not the machine..."

Sincerely, James - (PS - my daily driver is a 1996 Porsche 993)

 

I've noticed that as well, don't know what it is about Vettes that brings a big ego with it, I recall a Vette event at a restaurant/bar it looked as if it could possibly rain, out of 120 Vette guys in the restaurant maybe 8 drove there cars, the ego thing could be because the cars don't get alot of respect, I didn't have a month go by driving mine without some negative comment yelled by someone such as "corvettes suck!", I got more flak in that car than any by far.

 

There is always a wise ass in the crowd. I was trying to make a point moron. I have been a member of this forum for a long time. I know exactly what it is!

 

Still have the 348. I considered selling it after I bought the Vette because it was sitting too much. I have since reconsidered. I love both cars and get a completely different experience driving each. Now I drive them both regularly. When are you going to get it! I am not trying to prove the Vette is better. When Have I said anything like that. I have only been responding to the rediculous comments of some of the other people here. Look back through the tread.

 

Oh I get it. You have a bad experience with some *******s and now all Vette owners are bad guys!

 

I respect your reasoning but these type cars aren't built to be seen in. They are built to haul ass in. They are all just toys designed to get our testosterone flowing. There seems to be no shortage of that here.

 

I cannot deny the performance of the new C6 Z06. It is fast.

The main reasons I would not buy one are:

1. Front engine design. I think they contemplated a mid-ship design but did not go through with it for cost reasons.

2. Push Rod Motor. As woods said above...it is unrefined...again maybe for cost reasons one cam is cheaper than four. Push rod motors keep the RPMs low because of the heavier valvetrain. Even though it has titanium valves.

3. The motor is a huge 7.0 liter. Which in my opinion makes it easier to hit horsepower target without optimisation of the available displacement. The horspower to displacement ratio shows this. 72 hp per liter vs say the 355's 107 hp per liter.

4. Cast pistons. I know the reasons were to shorten the warm-up period. But really..., titanium valves, titanium connecting rods & cast pistons. They have shorter life span compared to forged. They also will not fair well with a supercharger, turbocharger or nitrous. Which are bound to be done by a few.

But in its defense, I like all the weight saving efforts they implemented. Like the hydroformed aluminum frame, magnesium engine front suspension cradle etc. Which I am sure is a big reason for the good acceleration numbers it is getting.

So in my opinion and those of a few friends here at work, it is what we call "low tech power".

 

You miss what he is saying, Its not that he wants to be seen in it.

Its the fact that the regular joe nobody who sees the car all be it a COrvette ZR1 could not tell the difference between it and a standard vette even with them next to each other.

The Z06 is pretty much the same it has a few differences but really its hard to tell them apart from the stock base unit vette that is the jeneral public if your a "Car Guy" youll be able to tell because you have seen and read about them you know about the small scoop on the front and the wider rear quarters.

Almost no on knows what a ZR1 corvette is because GM didnt make them different enough.


You ask the regular joe about a ferrari they know its not magnums 308 they know its a different car..

see what I mean

johnny

 

Well you might be right but he did say " I want to be seen in a car that looks the part" I may have misunderstood so I'll give you that one. The fact still remains that it does not make any difference. I would not care if it looked exactly the same. The car is completely different were it counts, performance!

 

No apology needed......this is all in good fun. I see you are softening up your stand. You still think that the ZO6 performance is respectable and that is not a fair statement. A ZO6 is faster than 99% of performance cars. Its not respectable...... it is outstanding! On par with Ferraris and Porsches. That is a fact. I dont like new Corvettes but I am not blind or retarded.