Little Fun Run with a new Z06

You just described most all of the owners of the FXX's. Except you would need to add "beer gut" to the description. No joke.

Your description is not limited to Corvette owners, when the cash is abudant in the wallet, you drive what you want no matter how you look. When I owned my 427 triple deuce, I was only 21, 32 inch waist and a full head of hair. Except for the hair, I now drive a Boxer. Thankfully, same waist (vodka is not as fattening as beer).

As for the original post, if in the hands of the same driver, or at least tow of the same skills, the Z06 should out perform the 348/355/360 with out any difficulty. Now if it were a 599, I would think we would have a more interesting comparison.

 

How does that make them better though. Engines are there to produce power not give us fancy things like overhead cams to talk about. I love Ferrari engine's especially the sound but the LS7 is a better engine. It gets 30mpg at 70mph. It's physically smaller and lighter than the M5/6s 5.0. So it's smaller, lighter, more powerful and more efficient than the mighty BMW engine of the year. Now tell me againn why the BMW or Ferrari engine would be better. They cost more, they're less powerful, they have more things to break down, they're more stressed at load and they have more moving parts. Tell me again why this makes them better.

 

Right on! I like F1 too.... just for the turbos! I watch NHRA as well. Hey I appologize for talking down the new Z06...I do think they have stepped it up huge this time around.

I think the reason I said all that about vettes, is that I have this guy here at work who hounded me relentlessly about my F-car. He would just go on and on about how much better the new Z06 was for weeks at a time. I have loved and worked on fast cars my whole life. This guy just got into cars in his fifties, when his new wife bought him a C6 (not Z06). Then there are the other vette owners here who fit the "old bald guy" description who go on and on too. So it was just a recent sore spot for me.

 

That's cool. You just don't want to be the Ferrari guy version of him though. I think you pretty much can't go wrong with most of the top modern sports cars. Porsche TT, Ferrari 430, C6Z06, Lambos. They are all just engineered to do different things. And they all do them pretty damn well. To me the Porsche TT is a very boring car to drive but that's what they wanted out of it. A quiet, fast easy car to drive so more of the SL crowd would buy one. And it worked. The Z06 was meant to go fast in every way cheaply and it worked as well. The Ferrari was meant to thrill and it definately worked. I love driving the 430. But I also love the Z and the Murci. They're all so different it's hard to dismiss one because it doesn't do what the others do. It's kind of like saying I don't like this apple because it doesn't have that great orange taste.
And for some guys on here to judge other guys by what car they drive or enjoy is crazy. Well he drives a Vette, he must be an sshole redneck. That's kind of like looking at a guy with a big nose and deciding he's Jewish and somehow lower on the human totem pole and thus less worthy of life. But I guess only Hitler prejudges people like that huh. Most people that can afford 75K cars are likely to be more like Ferrari owners than most of you think. Many of them are Ferrari owners so wave next time you see one go by. It might be one of the Tifosi. If it's a mean looking yellow Z(anyone want to post a pic of it for me) with dark rims it might be me with my Ferrari hat on. Cheers.

 

Which turbos would those be?

 

I must be stupid because I just don't get it. Why anyone would not want endless amounts of torque and horsepower down low and high is beyond me. Give me a poll of how many people give 2 shlts about engine rpm over hp. Better how again?

You can sprout all the hoot you want about your high revving 320 hp Firechicken contender, but in the end, who are you spanking with 8000 rpm? 350 z's and Porsche Boxters? What good is rpm if you're not going anywhere in it? Hmm? Are you gonna out high rev me in place?

Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeezzze.

If this is the logic I have to down to, I will have to start interacting with you boys a lot less. I doubt you care though.

Btw, here's some low tech for ya!

From Pratt & Miller:

 

I said it twice because YOU did not get the point. I think you are just on here to be irritating.......It is not only about acceleration/speed for me and alot of other people on this forum. Some people me included just don't want a vette/Z06 because there are too many of them. Others because of the engine configuration or the feel. Not because of the perfomance #'s.

The Z06 is a great bargain here in the U.S.A. because it is made here. "If" one lived in the U.K or Australia it would cost over $100k! Not such a bargain anymore.

I sold my 993TT because the body was too rounded, looked too much like the Carrera and I had P-cars most of my driving life. My TT was alot faster than my F-car. My 1968 Camaro SS did the 1/4 mile in the low 11's. Using your logic, I should not drive/like another car because it is slower or does not have the most performance.

My TT in my opinion was too easy to drive and so well behaved, it took alot of the raw excitement out of the driving experience. I can speak for myself when I say....My F-car is making me a better driver. You have to be in the right gear at the right time to get the power out of it.
I have to have alot more finesse with the F-car in all respects to get it to go. So when it does, the exhilaration is that much sweeter. The TT was bone head proof, I could dive into turns be in practically any gear and it would still haul @ss. So in summary I get more enjoyment from the "challenge" of driving the F-car to its limits.

 

Unless I am mistaken...F1 uses turbochargers on their motors and Indy is normally aspirated.

 

So i'm irritating now? Sorry. Just trying to point out facts that you are clearly blinded by. If you want, we can get into an interior discussion if it'd make you feel better, but I don't think any of us want that.

Well, enjoy your peppy ride. And, I hope you get the most out of it that you can.

 

You're thinking of CART vs. Indy. F1 hasn't been forced-induction in quite some time.

 

Dont you have a modded 930 that has never been beat? Thats a hard one to come back from.

 

and like the 250gt owners don't **** on anything post 1974 ??????

 

Big difference between talk and trying to convince and actually doing.

Say hi to Ellen and Albofag for me.

 

This is really an entertaining thread to read. Is the modded 914 faster than a C6 Z06? 348's are thrashers. Corvetters are wannabes. Debates on the bonafides of Corvettes. What's world class. Flames here and there - get the Halon out! I'm dying and I don't take any of this personally.

I've had 5 Vettes. I owned a 348 Spider. I got a 996 Turbo. I've done drivers' schools. I'm just getting into this exotic car thing. I think this pretty much represents a lot of ppl here.

Here's what I learned. Vettes are awesome these days, but they are not refined enough for me nor do they attract enough attention (I admit to being narcisistic). The handle pretty good and really go and stop fast. They are the ultimate expressions of their models, but they don't give me what I want.

The Porsche is about the fastest thing I have ever driven and stops pretty damned fast too., but it doesn't satisfy my sportscar cravings. Something is missing from the whole Porsche formula for me.

My 348 wasn't the fastest thing out there - heck a Subbie WRX paced me in a drag race. In a run to Monterey with FCA, all the 355's and up just out accelerated me. That's okay I don't need to be at the front of the pack. But when I drove that car, the symphony of mechanical music combined with the easy and absolutely neutral balance of the chassis just put the biggest smile on my face. I remember the smell of gasoline, leather and synthetics. There is a unique aroma to a running Ferrari. Everything about the car just made me happy.

It's about the experience, dudes, and that's what Ferrari gives us.

 

No need to be sorry....... No one here is denying any facts.....Your comments above show your insecurity.....This is what your comments boil down to.... "gosh I can't have the F-chat forum guy/guys disagree with me.....I'll show them...."

 

Well stated!!

 

That depends on what kind of experience your looking for. If you mean half the county staring at you while you cruise down the road, yes the Ferrari is fine. If you mean rocketship like acceleration, glued to the pavement cornering, and braking that will have you peeling yourself off the dash, the Z06 is the way to go!

 

I bet you would enjoy the challenge of driving the Z to its limits just as much. The car is down right sick! I bet it would scare the hell out of most drivers. No offense Oz but if you are challenged by driving the 355 to its limits you will be over your head in the Z.

 

Air, u must be a Vettie, as they are called here. God bless you! The Ferrari satisfies my driving experience, and in fact has ruined it for any other car, except maybe a Lambo or (God forbid) a Maser (which I have owned in a weak moment). One can appreciate the C6 Z51 and the Z06's (including the C5) for what they are, but they don't offer the complete deal for me. The 996 Turbo is about as fast as the Z06, despite what the press says because I cannot make either hit the performance values that they can, nor would I want to as an owner - read what they did to get the C6 Z06 to reach the 0-60 time they posted in CD and AW (sub 4 secs.). Talk about drive train abuse. Rather, I rate the cars not on the maximum performance potential, but within the performance envelope I drive in, including a serious romp around Willow Springs, CA Speedway, Los Angeles Crest Hwy, or whatever local route I wish.

That's just me. If u like the rockestship Vette thing, then more power to ya. And it's not just the attention the Ferrari gets - it's only part of the total experience. For the record, part of me wants to get my hands on a Z06 for the afternoon.

 

Over my head, how so? The challenge I spoke of was trying to get the most out of a very limited car. In the 355 there are turns I don't even have to lift off the throttle on all the way around. Where on my 993TT if you did not feather it, you would be in the weeds for sure. (Speaking from experience)

I am no professional but I have driven the hell out of a variety cars. My 930 was modded to about 500 hp with as much torque, limited slip diff and lightened to about 2900lbs. That car was barbaric! Going around turns at the limits of adhesion then have the turbo kick in just in time to start your four wheel drift...THAT was sick!

Well, I will stop my armchair racing...since that is not really my bag...

 

*Sigh*.......
You just dont get it........

 

Well I guess by the standards set in this disscusion I am both. I also have a Ferrari and love it too!

 

Don't get upset. I thought you were saying you found the 355 challenging. If you are as serious as you say, you gotta love the Z. It is an adrenalin junkies dream!

 

Here we go again. Your thought is incorrect. I guess challenge can mean quite a few things. The challenge I speak of is for example:

You've been driving a road course in car with 500hp. Now try to complete the same course in the same amount of time in a car with 400hp. That is the challenge....to be more efficient with what you have. Which in turn will make you a better driver.

Quoting my previous post that you replied to (post #170):

"The challenge I spoke of was trying to get the most out of a very limited car."

If that sounds too confusing, then I cannot help you. I cannot be more clear than in the above example.




As for the Z, well I would have to find someone who would allow me to drive it. I won't hold my breath as I find the Z rather bland looking.

 

I completely agree. My 355 gave me a feeling that no other car has.