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What happened?

Discussion in 'California & Nevada (Northern)' started by blu328gts, Sep 5, 2006.

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  1. blu328gts

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  2. RacerX_GTO

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    Ouch???? And it didn't even hit anything.
     
  3. Itzkirb

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  4. SoftwareDrone

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    Bob Willis can buff that out no problem.
     
  5. sharkster

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    I wonder if the owner was a smoker?
     
  6. GCalo

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    For sure Rifledriver has a spare set of headlights.

    Bob Willis could get that paint to shine. I agree.

    Two weeks that car will be as good as new.

    I think that car was in Yosemite Village. It belonged to "Smokey" the bear!
     
  7. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Interesting fire. All the tires are intact. The engine comp looks intact yet the hood was hot enough to burn through the metal. No signs of fire or great heat below the tail light lenses except the interior. No evidence the fuel or oil burned. In fact there is no evidence of any interior space burning except the interior of the car.


    Would love to inspect it. Wonder if it was electrical? Or was doused in gas and set on fire. My money is on 2. Wonder if the owner is having financial problems.
     
  8. blu328gts

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    Hmmm... Interesting observations, Brian!
     
  9. GCalo

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    I think that car is in a yard near the bridge to Benecia.

    Sure looks like an accelerated fire.

    Maybe it's another angry wife fire!

    It's like the construction worker who showed up at work one morning wearing an earing.

    His co-worker was stunned and asked why since he figured the earing wearer was too macho for that.

    So, he says, how long have you been wearing an earing?

    The wearer responded " ever since my wife found it in my truck"!
     
  10. SoftwareDrone

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    The dousing theory sounds most plausible. Probably pissed off somebody on fchat.
     
  11. djantlive

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    Poor car. The engine must be salvageable to be worth anything close to $48k. Foul play is definitely suspected... What kind of mad man would do something like this???
     
  12. GCalo

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    You think a chicken was involved?


    Incorrect word usage. What kind of mad woman....!
     
  13. tvismr2

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  14. GCalo

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    Is that gasoline alley?
     
  15. blu328gts

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    FWIW, that scene is actually from Zoolander...
     
  16. GCalo

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    Just the thought of that occuring is disgusting!
     
  17. synchro

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    When I saw the Red krinkle finish and air boxes were still intact, that is what I thought; newly ex-wife or ex-mistress being likely candidates.
     
  18. Rifledriver

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    Or someone with an eight year car loan discovered the financial law of gravity.
     
  19. Ferrariby50

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    $48K? That's a smokin' deal!
     
  20. dbw

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    poor car might have been in a lower garage with the fire on the floor above that broke thru ...kinda like a toaster oven. if the fd got there soon enough this could result. [remember, heat rises...]
     
  21. Rifledriver

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    That could very well be.

    Building fires are tough on cars.
     
  22. wonkazoo

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    Nope, definitely an accelerant was used. The seat of the fire is in the passenger footwell. (Evidenced by the melted yuk above, and the windshield frame missing above that. A whole lot of heat, and a whole lot of fuel.) Having said that there is no possible way the fire traveled along the surface of the enitre top of the car without having an easily consumable fuel source- or without having incinerated everything underneath first. (Remember- fire vaporizes solids and liquids- and then catalyzes them. Car paint is volatile when in its raw state- but when dry it's actually pretty stable.)

    Reflective or convective heat from a structure fire would not cause the burning seen on this car, it would cause blistering and cracking- and eventually glazing. Yes, temps in a structure fire are around 1200 F at the ceiling and probably around 500 F at he height of the car- but that wouldn't explain the extremely high temps generated in and around the footwell. Also- the entire windsheild would be melted away- not the part over the footwell. In any case the seat of the fire was clearly on the passenger side- probably in the footwell itself from a literal puddle of gasoline. Brian- are there any fuel lines running through the footwell that we didn't know about??

    I look forward to the final explanation for this one- although I guarantee it involves gasoline- nothiing else easily available oxidizes so quickly, or with such a signature energy transfer.

    Either someone got really mad at someone else- or Brian nailed it on the head.
     
  23. dbw

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    hmmm...how do you get an accelerant to conveniently stop at the edge of the car and not drip down the side??? the engine cover looks as if it acted as a heat shield...perhaps someone brushed the entire top surface with a volitile gel...a molotov cocktail under the car would work better i'd say.
     
  24. JonBrent

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    Do you think it's the place off waterfront road in Martinez?
     

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