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Today I was given my sentence for 115 in a 55 on a suspended license

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Nick85, Sep 12, 2006.

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  1. ProRallyCodriver

    ProRallyCodriver Formula 3

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    I'm up for that. How about Woodrow Wilson Bridge to American Legion Memorial Bridge blocking all lanes of 495 driving the speed limit and back with a sidetrip up 66?

    Why would I want to watch NASCAR when everyday here I see idiots driving in a circle on each other's bumpers.
     
  2. LetsJet

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    Rolling roadblocks are illegal...........
     
  3. DGS

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    You're missing the point. Exotic cars suggest the potential for non-compliance just by existing.

    Worse, cars suggest individualism, which leads to elitism. Cars bad. Bus good.

    Every problem in northern virginia comes from cars. Traffic problems come from having cars in the way of the busses, not from highway mismanagement. Pollution comes from too many cars, not from keeping them idling at traffic lights for five minutes per (while traffic congests there).

    Pay no attention to the commercial trucks parked in the travel lanes, the busses that make left turns from the right lanes, or the roads shut down so construction equipment can back on and off of private lot construction sites.

    Never mind that the road crews tear up the same patch of road over and over and over, or that the fine for failure to maintain lane would be only $30 ... if they ever bothered to ticket for that.

    No, everyones' problems are because you have a good car.


    Heck, a county cop followed me for five miles last week when I was already in "perfect compliance" with speed limits and all other traffic laws. Presumably because the EVO has a big wing. (At least in MA, they usually lost interest after they saw the gray hair. ;))

    Here, rolling roadblocks are SOP -- or even mandatory.

    (That's why the lights stay red so long -- to make sure that the traffic is packed into a rolling obstruction. That way the drivers simply bounce back into their own lane after brushing adjacent traffic.)
     
  4. Tarek K.

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    Hey, I have four different driving licenses to make sure I am covered at all times. What does that make me? Sh*t I deserve to be hanged.
     
  5. Dubai Vol

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    No.
     
  6. paulie_b

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    excuse me for saying, but this whole thing was not too smart to begin with....115 in a 55!
    anyway, thanks for the 2 combat tours.
     
  7. WCH

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    "No, everyones' problems are because you have a good car."

    Great post. Great car, too, love the Evos. ;)



    CW: Not sure one round would do it. We'd have to make absolutely sure we're over the limit.
     
  8. lashss

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    Why do people drive in VA?

    We did a Ferrari event at All Sports out in Sterling years ago. We had a good buddy from NYC come down in his new 550 Maranello. He got pulled over on the Dulles Toll Road for 87 in a 55. He rec'd a ticket for reckless driving, illegal radar detector, illegal window tint, illegal license plate cover, non factory exhaust and something else ridiculous.

    He never came back to VA again.

    I'm not overly proud to be an MD resident, but stories like this remind me why I live there.

    LS
     
  9. CornersWell

    CornersWell F1 Rookie

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    Surprising how changing one small letter in the Commonwealth's marketing tagline tells an entirely different story:

    Virginia is for lovers.

    Or...

    Virginia is for losers.

    Things that make you go hmmmm.

    CW
     
  10. racerx

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    There are revenue generation "laws" and there are right and wrong "laws".

    Most everyone respects true laws as they are usually based on moral teachings where as the "laws" regarding cars and speed are regulations usually passed by the taxman or industry lobbyists.

    There is no moral basis for limiting the speed of a car on an empty highway.
     
  11. Tarek K.

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    I will not steal, I will not forge, I will not kill and I will not lie, but I WILL speed.
     
  12. krasnavian

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    This country was founded on the Common Law--no harm no foul, in simplified terms. Thanks to the 14th Amendment and subsequent developments, we now have codes that command compliance with punishment for noncompliance (sounds like a dictatorship?). To put a fine point on this, the US Supreme Court has ruled that the 14th Amendment does not incorporate the Bill of Rights. The result is that you are compliance-bound.

    I was once stopped at 0300hrs after traveling at 130mph in my GTO on a Los Angeles freeway. The Highway Patrol car caught up with me as I was waiting for a very long red light at the bottom of the off ramp. His first words were, "Can I see the engine?" His next were, "Thanks, have a great day!" No ticket, in the tradition of the Common Law, the 14th Amendment notwithstanding.
     
  13. ArtS

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    I've Just read this thread and have ome to the following conclusions:

    1. Nick85, I'm sorry for you. In my opinion, the lack of notification regarding license suspension is the biggest injustice.

    2. Try to avoid speeding in N. VA, especially in Fairfax Co. as they are serious about heavily prosecuting speeding.

    3. Asianbond didn't bother reading the thread carefully before posting.

    4. Italiacars is a generic troll - ignore him and he will go away.

    5. h00kem - no firm opinion (too little content surrounding his post) but probobly a troll

    6. Egypt sounds like a fun but scary place ;) .

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  14. Tarek K.

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    Art S., hi there, we have an understanding :). You have an open invitation to be my guest in Egypt at any time of your choice. It is fun and it's not only driving. Send me an email if ever interested to visit Egypt.
     
  15. ArtS

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    Tarek,

    Thank you very much! Some day I hope to take you up on it. I'd love to visit Egypt, both for it's history and seemingly very interesting present day culture. Unfortuately, for the near future, I'm chained to my desk trying to get some new automotive technology to market.

    Regards,

    Art S.

    PS. take a look at www.knite.com the site is a bit dated and dry but the technology is pretty cool!
     
  16. SPEEDMAN WITHOUT LICENCE

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    That cool,better then 1 or none...
    Speedman
     
  17. Tarek K.

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    I hope you do.

    Best regards,

    Tarek
     
  18. Tarek K.

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    It's true. Better safe than sorry :)
     
  19. testarob

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    If you are doing the speed limit then by definition you are not blocking the road...
     
  20. LetsJet

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    Go for it................
     
  21. absent

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    Driving 115 is normal if there is little traffic,55 is idiotic...
     
  22. speedracer1610

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    can you do it again?
     
  23. asianbond

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    Art S- don't believe everything you read, human nature for some to always blame others.

    His license was suspended, so legally he should not be driving. Even if other state screw up in lifting suspension, 115 is not mere speeding, it's quite dangerous.

    Don't get me wrong, i speed as well, but if you do the crime be ready to suffer consequences.

    It appears many on this board is patting this guy on the back for speeding with suspended license. Thankfully he did not slam into minivan with soccer mom and kids or you'll all be thinking differently.
     
  24. rossocorsa13

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    Just thought I'd chime in here...

    As far as tickets go, I've been lucky, having recieved one for expired tags 3 days after I bought my car, which was then ripped up with proof of my new tags. 115 in a 55 is pretty hefty, but I also concur with the "no harm, no foul" reasoning previously talked about in this thread. If you're on a deserted road and it's just you in the car and you can see for ten miles, who cares? It's your responsibility. I guess my two cents is this: Know the area before you do some serious speeding. I think part of the reason I haven't gotten any tickets is because I know where the cops are and I know where to make time. I wouldn't drive to Kentucky and do any more than ten over the posted limit, because I don't know where the hotspots are.
     
  25. DGS

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    I think the point here was that he was not aware that his license had been suspended in his absence.

    Yes, if he had stood in front of a judge and had it lifted, there'd be no excuse for driving without the license. But when a paper pusher mis-files paperwork and you don't get the message ... Can you be 100.0% sure that your license hasn't been suspended "on paper" through some clerical foul-up?

    Depends on the circumstances: Road condition, vehicle, driver training, visibility, traction, pedestrian access. 115 isn't "quite dangerous" on, say, the autobahn.

    Knowing something of Fairfax county, I can think of few places where 115 might be safe around here --- mostly because of the unpredictability of the other drivers. But I don't know the exact circumstances.

    But that's not the point. The "law" around here doesn't take circumstances into account. It reflects the attitude you stated: "speed is dangerous". Any speed. Moving faster than pedestrians is dangerous. Speed is distance divided by time. If you're moving you have a speed. "Speed kills" is a call for immobility.

    Heck, 250BHP pushing two tons of metal with only driver attention to control it: Now THAT's dangerous. If the automobile were invented today, every government agency in the US would be rushing to ban it.

    We all seem to have developed a very low opinion of other humans, and our political correctness is based on presuming that everyone else is incompetent.

    Is that "correctness" or "ego boo"? (Someone who holds that everyone else is worse than himself is like saying "I'm better than everyone else".)

    Worse yet: by expecting incompetence, we set that as the standard to live down to.

    I think that's what bothers me the most about speed limits as revenue generation. While I've been known to push it on rare occasions, that's never when I see the radar guns.

    Every ticket I've gotten in the last 20 years has been while meekly tooling along with traffic -- the cops simply picked out the "good" car to tag for revenue enhancement, figuring that my time is worth more than the ticket buy-off.

    On the latest, even after the cop told me where the signs were that announced that the speed limit had been reduced to 35 -- for two blocks on a six lane highway -- it took two passes to spot them (too small for a six lane road). When I asked the cop why he didn't stop the Toyota that was walking away from me, he told me that he was about to when he saw the Ferrari. Tickets have nothing to do with safety, around here.

    "Every bad law detracts from the good ones". Using speed guns for revenue enhancement simply degrades respect for traffic laws. Imposing political correctness just makes the law look like an a**. (Dickens.)

    Would you ticket someone for approaching a stop sign, because he might not stop?

    Brakes might fail, rims might break, a tree might fall over. If you dwell on what might happen, you'd never get out of bed.

    "Where in the name of common sense are our fears to end if we cannot trust our brothers, our neighbors, our fellow-citizens?" -- The Federalist, Hamilton, 1788.

    "Land of the free and home of the brave" -- Yah, right.

    When something does go wrong, PCism is handy: If someone hits a tree that's too close to the travel lane, instead of removing the tree, towns will simply reduce the speed limit. Enhance revenue, rather than spend money. More pork barrel, Igor. And if you sell the mantra that "speed is bad", the peons won't complain when the towns deal with their problem by making it your problem.


    Okay, so I'm ranting. But when we accept the notion that standing out in a crowd just makes you a target, we can only wind up someplace we didn't want to go.
     

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