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Here Come The Judge!

Discussion in 'New York Tri-State' started by Ciao Bello 348, Sep 13, 2006.

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  1. andrew911

    andrew911 F1 Rookie
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    Sep 8, 2003
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    A very easy area to get dinged (especially since 98% of the cars on 287 in that area are going over the limit). Thanks for the heads up!

    What pisses me off is if you are going say 90 mph on a road like 287 with light traffic and everyone else is going 85, it looks bad since you're 25 mph over the limit when really you're going 5 mph faster than light traffic. Before the armchair judges/cops start saying you are breaking the speed limit, if you are moving with traffic, you're not really causing any danger. It would be the idiot in the fast lane talking on the cell phone doing 60mph in this scenario who should be pulled over. Fred brought up 287- which is a very easy road to "speed" on when traffic is light- or I should re-phrase a road on which it is difficult to stay at the posted limit.
     
  2. Ciao Bello 348

    Ciao Bello 348 Formula 3

    Oct 3, 2005
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    Well, in all fairness--We all know that Judges, baliffs and all other court personnel DO NOT speed. Ever! Nor do they break any other civil laws


    Like James Hetfield says, "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!" I cant wait for the day i see the judge's fat ass plastered on the front page of the Ledger for something. What comes around, goes around. Maybe he wakes up to a nasty pig woman everyday. One with stubble on her back and hair between her teeth.

    Ooo Yeah!
     
  3. revsto9k

    revsto9k Formula Junior

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    Anuj
    YES!!!
     
  4. whart

    whart F1 Veteran
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    What they usually get them on is bizarre sexual relationships with young children, bestiality, or embezzlement; cross dressing in public places while engaging in sex with transgendered individuals seems to be a popular one; occasionally, you'll find the odd public official that gets nailed for cannabalism, or exhuming dead bodies, but in my experience, that's more unusual.
     
  5. fallen

    fallen Rookie

    Aug 13, 2006
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    The burdens of proof in some traffic courts are much lower than those in other courts. (no proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard). Thus, the state need not produce much evidence at all for a conviction.

    Additionally, IMHO there is nothing morally wrong with speeding as long as its not recklessly done. It's only a crime (actually probably defined as a "violation") because your friendly legislature made it so.

    This is opposed to true (malum in se) crimes such as rape or murder, which although also statutory offenses, are wrongs in and of themsleves.

    Good luck and I hope you get your license back soon.
     
  6. fallen

    fallen Rookie

    Aug 13, 2006
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    And I was wondering all along what PBA cards are for . . .

    Nabbs give me a ring.
     
  7. NYCFERRARIS

    NYCFERRARIS Formula 3

    Mar 2, 2004
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    John C,
    raw deal...so bummed you got a screwing esp. since you did " the right thing" and hired a professional...shame on him -- not your fault. Jawad gave us all some good advice there..keep you mouth shut in front of the judge and keep it short , sweet and kiss-ass ( oh sorry -- respectful) never, ever lie...that is some serious sh*t .

    bottom line: traffic court for the most part is a circus at best, a revenue mill at worst.

    Thank you Worth / Nabbs for assn' along some useful practice tips. It seems there are two schools of thought on tickets...tie these small communities up in legal procedure and discovery etc. until they cry uncle and plea bargain or fail some technicality. OR get down on your knees and beg for forgiveness and will never do anything like this ever again and you will never ever see my rosso red as* in your jurisdiction ever again.
     
  8. Ciao Bello 348

    Ciao Bello 348 Formula 3

    Oct 3, 2005
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    Ha. Are you kidding me?? I cant decide how much faster of a car i should get.

    Lets make this fun. Instead of me, Nip and Jawad posting "Lessons We Learned" from this particular event, lets let OTHERS tell us what lessons we should have learned.

    Clyde--I cant WAIT to hear yours. Hell, i cant wait to post the lessons I learned. They're quite comical.
     
  9. stuckinkuwait

    stuckinkuwait Formula Junior

    Jul 25, 2004
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    Ciao,

    Sorry to hear what happened to you. Can you report your lawyer to the ABA for unprofessional conduct? I wish you the best.
     

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