QP or M5 feedback

it's funny you just count hp and weight.
you don't count balance, brakes, etc.

 

Well, if you post on a public forum? You have heard of the PM option?

 

I'm not really counting anything...I have driven both cars and would like to be personally involved in an head to head comparison...by the way, tests show the M5 brakes stop in a shorter distance than the QP...but, who cares...let's see what one can do at Road Atlanta in two weeks...

 

They actually found that the standard QP was better which was tested in an earlier review. The test you mentioned was with the 20inch wheels, I seem to remember that they found them too large and that they messed up the skyhook suspension system.

 

They have a table at the back with all the figures. The test track is the Bedford Aerodrome,UK, length 1.8 miles, descibes as a technical track.

QP - 128.35(time secs) - 103.5mph(peak mph)

M5 - 129.95(time secs) - 108.2mph(peak mph)

other cars , eg Porsche Carrera 997 - 128.85secs & 109.3mph

In any case, you buy the QP for style,beauty,class, just makes it feel even nicer that it handles so well!

 

I don't think anybody with a QP is bothered if an M5 is quicker or slower, you're only getting replies because you are making various claims which are unfounded.

 

I am willing to stand by my challenge to put them both to the test at Road Atlanta...that's better than any magazine claims anyway...what more can you ask but to see for yourself?

 

Having been fortunate to have tried both more than once (w/vigor), they don't seem close. Likely EVO has something I don't (aside from a magazine), but the M5 is the more focused drive by a good bit. That said, for how I'd use the car most often, paddle shift v. paddle shift, I'd take the Maser. Stick shift would put me in the 5, though. Now a manual tranny'd, 612 motor'd (er 599 powered?) QP might just be the one to have if you're having just one. Anyway, my $'s on Dino Frank, if he's a decent shoe.

 

Who cares who's marginally faster?

As every article states in "class and exclusivity" the Maserati is in a class by itself. That to me is surely worth more than a few 10ths of a second here and there.

 

yes, and if i PM you it will be a
"STFU"

but, really, i like to post it public, since you call it an option.
next time, don't dodge my comment.
you cannot read.
but you can dodge like a laywer.

 

exactly correct, where is the "class and exclusivity" in a 525i ooops M5, they both look the same and to the punter looking at it from the street they see a poverty pack 5 series, not an M5............But someone please show me the base model of the QP.

My wife settled on a QP because she did not want to drive a bimmer as they are only a status symbol in the subdivisions or trailer park

 

+1.

in some parts of the world, it is a taxi or a 530d...

i cannot imagine those 525i or 530d owners watching those the M5 owner (who spend 2x as much money) on the side of the road or on the back of a tow truck during rush hour.

 

While the M5 is based on the 5 series,the M5 is quite a different vehicle than the base 5 series. And I suppose the base model of the QP is a Buick maybe... LoL

 

ROFLMAO.
and this is the exact 'Buick' that you drooled over for more than 14 months before you bought your M5.

this is exactly why your posts are laughable.

 

If performance was the only criteria, then why isn't everybody running around in Mitsubishi Evo's instead of BMW's and Maserati's?

 

http://www.clausencars.com/Buick%20Lucerne%202.jpg

 

The fact is there are many more people driving around in Mitsubishis and BMWs than Maseratis...

 

Quite interesting thread about two wonderful cars.
There was a similar discussion on another board and I will quote a friend's reply explaining the main differences between a Maserati QP and other comparable cars just because he had a realistic and graphic way of putting it, here goes:

...now ...doubts anybody?

 

"The masses are asses." – Alexander Hamilton (1755-1804)

 

I agree that Italian cars are much more visceral...that's why I have owned 8 over the last 2 1/2 decades...Originally I had only pointed out why after ~ one year of considering what to replace my 111k mile e39 M5 with as a daily driver I chose a new e60 M5 over a QP...then I started getting slammed by some Maseratis lovers who refuse to acknowledge that the QP does has its weaknesses...which is unreal to me when compared to other specific marque forums where owners are open about discussing a particular models problems in an effort to avoid and/or repair them...these are cars after all which are not perfect and could all stand some improvement...but, it seems that some think because you point out a car's weaknesses you hate that car and all owners of that car and the makers of that car and the dealers who sell and service that car and the people who read magazine articles about that car and....ad infnitum...which is far from the truth in my case. I guess as a trial lawyer I'm used to vehemently disagreeing with opposing counsel and then having a beer together afterwards...some folks are just too weak minded to handle such discourse I suppose?

 

What is a Buick? In australia we dont get pieces of **** imported, our Govt controls the crap that some manufacturers try to bring in under the false pretence of a "car"


and in reply to your statement.........................yep just what is the base model of the QP?.....................it stands alone, it is neither a taxi or cab aka the 525i..

 

Guys my father looked at a QP for about a year as did Frank he ended up going with something else my dad picked an S600. It is a much better car then the QP in every aspect except for maybe design. 500hp, 4 passanger seating, massaging heat/cooled rear seats, rear legroom, interior is top notch leather and alcantera, no jerky trans like the qp and yes we test drove one over a weekend and guess what when you constantly switch cars you don't want to have to worry about rolling into the car behind you(my moms problem not dads lol). Also, the fact the car is getting a facelift VERY VERY soon is the reason he didn't buy it. Maserati dealers are having trouble moving these cars look at the inventories if you don't believe me. Also, there is no clue what these cars will do resale wise either. It was to big of a risk to take on a car that just isn't that good. without the design the car has nothing IMO. Now if it had a V12 maybe then we wouldn't have this problem, but while the car handles great in a sedan people (my dad anyway) want to be able to go fast in a straight line 0-100mph. If he is going to be back road driving he will take another car. Also, there was a little more wind noise compared to the s600 at highway speeds.
Erik

 

the S600 looks like any MB and like the BMW as stated b4 is a status symbol in the subduvisions or trailer parks, any punter looking at it trundle down the street would say oh thats a benz, they would not say oh thats an S600 cos all benz's look the same. My wife looked at the S600 and in the end glad to end up with a QP........................its unique

 

While I don't doubt it is unique it is just not as good of a car! The abc suspension on the Benz is unreal as is 500hp and 600lb of torque. The car is faster then my cousins 405hp 03 z06 from a 35mph roll to about 100. Also, with the backseat leg room you can more then easily take another couple on a double date and noone feels cramped. To be frank my Dad loves the 600 because it is a sleeper. He didn't want to stand out, and he has other cars that do that more then well enough (355, xlr-v). If you are looking for a car that only car guys know what it is you buy an M or an AMG, or a 600 series car. The 600 is designed to look just like any other s class. It is for the man that wants the quality of a flying spur and performance of one without the attention of one. The last thing to remember is the QP doesn't even compete with the S class. According to the Maserati salespeople it is designed to fit in between an E class and an S class or a 5 series and a 7 series. So, please don't try and argue about the interior as the S or 7 series has much more space inside and in the trunk to boot (no pun intended). So in reality the QP is the most expensive MID SIZE sedan in the world.....
Erik

 

how wonderful for u and your ol man.
when u get the money sonny jim and u decide what u want then step up to the plate, but as this thread is a comparison between an M5 and QP - well take your daddy's S whatever and do a comparo with a bangled 6.99 series. and if by chance people are happy paying good money for a expensive Mid size well then thats just dandy, and if there is more space in the S whatever who cares, we dont need rear leg room, we sit in the front, but then u wouldnt know but i'm sure daddy would know..go and ask for his opinion.........he owns the thing doesnt he? ...................and u sit where? in the back waving at the kiddies at Mcdonalds as u return to the ronald Mcdonald trailer park.