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Such a beauty

Discussion in 'Other Italian' started by Ulmis, Sep 29, 2006.

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  1. Ulmis

    Ulmis Formula Junior

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  2. bjm

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    Wow, stunning. I want one.
     
  3. bjm

    bjm Formula Junior

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    Anyone know if Alpha Romeo have plans to sell their cars in the U.S.?
     
  4. jhsalah

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    Heard they were planning an '08 - '09 comeback. This could be just rumor though. Come on, someone give us the scoop. By the way, would one of you be so kind as to post the pictures of this car? Don't have Flash 8 and don't want to download (have my reasons). Thx.
     
  5. bjm

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  6. jhsalah

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    WOW!!! That's gorgeous!
    Any details?? Engine, price, availability???

    God that's beautiful! Way to go Alfa!!
     
  7. bjm

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    The 8C Competizione makes its debut in Paris



    She is the Queen of the Paris Motor Show: the new Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione - a two-seater super sports car that embodies the quintessence of Italian racing cars, and will be produced as a limited edition. Derived from the prototype presented at the Frankfurt Motor Show in 2003, it combines the very latest technologies with a body that offers a modern interpretation of the style of some of the most famous racing cars from the past, including, notably, the 33 Coupé Stradale and the Giulia TZ (Zagato tubular body) from the 1960s. Even the name itself - 8C Competizione – harks back to the Alfa Romeo greats of the Thirties, and will get the pulse of all true fans racing.
    Conceived at the Alfa Romeo Style Centre in Arese and developed in collaboration with Maserati, the new saloon is an uncompromising sports car. Studied down to the smallest detail, to get the very best in terms of performance and driving pleasure, its light, strong structure features a steel chassis supporting a carbon fibre body. The engine is an amazing new 4.7-litre, 8-cylinder 90°V unit, capable of delivering 450 horsepower. It comes with rear-wheel drive, and a 6-speed robotic gearbox placed in the rear train, in a single unit with the differential, for better weight distribution. It has the same layout as the legendary Alfetta single-seater, twice winner of the Formula One world title, in 1950 and 1951. The suspension system features deformable wishbones, like those found on racing cars. Even the tyres have been chosen to give the very best in terms of performance: ultra-low, they are mounted on 20” wheels and are wider at the rear (283/35 against 245/35). Helping to tame the 450 horsepower of the 8C Competizione is the car’s aerodynamics, giving a negative lift effect for increased grip and stability, and the use of the very latest version of the VDC electronic system. This system guarantees dynamic control of the car even in emergency situations, without penalising driving pleasure. The quest for on-the-road behaviour that can satisfy even the most demanding drivers is also behind the new Alfa Romeo 147 Q2, making its world premiers in Paris. Fitted with the 1.9 JTDM 150 bhp turbodiesel and featuring exclusive sporting trim, this version uses a new self-blocking differential – called the Q2 – which increases the car’s ability to ‘discharge’ the engine torque, improving the ca’s dynamic control and driving pleasure. The 147 Q2 is easily recognisable for its low trim, rear spoiler and for the satin-finish steel elements (radiator grille, ‘whiskers’, and mirrors). On the inside, a host of details emphasise this version’s sporty personality, summed up by one detail in particular: the pierced aluminium pedals. Next to the Q2, the Alfa Romeo stand also features two special versions of the 147: the Black Line II and the Collezione II. Fitted respectively with the twin-shaft 1.6 Twin Spark 120 bhp petrol engine and the 1.9 JTDM 150 bhp turbodiesel unit, they are exclusive versions with a lowered trim, 17” alloy wheels, a particularly lavish range of equipment and a truly exclusive look. In particular, the Black Line II combines the Alfa Red body with the roof and certain other elements in gloss black, while the Collezione II is black with black and cream leather interiors.
    Alongside these attractions, Alfa Romeo also has its most recent models on display in Paris: the 159 saloon and Sportwagon, the Spider, the 2+2 Brera and the Black Line version of the GT coupé. We think it safe to say that this year’s Alfa stand will be one of the most popular with the Paris public.
     
  8. mikigta

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    Engine: 8cylinder v90°; 4700 cm3, 450hp at 7000 rpm; 470nm at 4750 rpm; max rpm 7500
    Gearbox: Paddle shift semi-automatic like Ferrari
    Price: I don't but i think 130-150k €


    Ciao
     
  9. TrentS

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  10. Napolis

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    Fantastic Car. I placed the first order.
     
  11. Webby

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    Nice! First modern Alfa I've actually thought is pretty
     
  12. KostMez

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    I'm in so much love with that car. I kind of feel proud of Alfa Romeo that finally, after so many years, she decided to make a supercar.
     
  13. salegosse

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    What about the chassis ?

    He is based on the Maserati Coupé chassis, allready based on the Maserati 3200GT, allready based on an old Maserati (Shamal, Ghibli or something........).

    ...
     
  14. KostMez

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    It mostly uses carbon fibre but also steel. Like someone else said in another forum it's a GT with Challenge Stradale setup

    Edit: btw the Maserati Coupe GT weighs 1650kg this one weighs 1350-1400kg
     
  15. Townshend

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    Not a fan of the styling. There's something just awkward about it to me. With that being said, I can't wait until I see one in person..wouldn't be surprised if my mind was changed then.
     
  16. parkerfe

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    While it does look great, that is way too much money(~$200k USD) for those performance stats...450hp is almost basic transportation these days with BMW,Benz, Cadillac and more all having 500+ hp in their sports sedans...there are even some SUVs on the market now with more than 450hp!
     
  17. parkerfe

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    IMHO, Alfa/Fiat needs to rethink its idea to sell Alfas through its Maserati dealer network...there are just too few Maserati dealers to get people to buy a daily driver Alfa when there is less than one Maserati dealer per state right now. That was one of the reasons I recently bought a BMW M5 instead of a Maserati QP...there is just one Maserati dealer in Georgia and it is way off my beaten path to go there when I need service, warranty work, ect...and I am already a 6 time Ferrari owner who is used to the hassle you often get with Italian cars. The average Toyota, Nissan or Honda owner is not going to buy an Alfa when they will have to drive 25, 50, 100 or more miles just to get service or warranty work done...Alfa needs to team up with one of the Japanese or even Korean car companies which already has an extensive dealer network to sell their cars... if sales get high enough, they can then move to a stand alone Alfa dealer network...to sell new Alfas only at Maserati dealers will be the quick death of Alfas in the USA...again.
     
  18. mikigta

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    You are the best! :)
    This car is one of my favourite, but what do you think about the Audi r8? Some people prefer the r8 to the 8c Competizione...

    I consider you an expert of cars, what lacks according to you to the Alfa Romeo for being competitive in America?

    Sorry for my English:D
     
  19. Napolis

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    The R 8 looks very good as well but IMO it's simply a re badged Lambo G with less HP and blander looks. The 8C stands on it's own and the quality is super.

    The 8C was very hot and they took over 200 orders in 2 days. I met and had nice talk with the designer who was at the show and he really got this one right. The company who makes the carbon fiber is the same one that made the carbon fiber for P 4/5 and the quality is superb.

    The key won't be the 8C which is a home run. The key will be the price point of the Spyder in the US. If they can sell it here for a reasonable price I think Alfa's return to the US will work fine.

    Best
     
  20. parkerfe

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    Not if they're only sold at the few and far between Maserati dealers...there are just too few Maserati dealers to attract enough USA buyers...
     
  21. jungathart

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    Pretty shape...but reminds me too much of a TVR.
     
  22. KostMez

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    The car will cost 144k euros (184k US$) in Italy. An F430 for instance costs 156k euros, only that there will be only 500 8C's produced every year whereas there are 5000 F430s produced per year (much more exclusive). Also it's going to use the F1 'box that the 599GTB is using.

    P.S. this car is not aimed to people who would think to buy either this or, say, an M5 ;)...Plus it doesn't follow this stupid hp war
     
  23. parkerfe

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    I disagree...a large number of M5, AMG, Jag and other sedan owners also own an Italian car whether it be a Ferrari, Lambo, Maserati...those owners, like me, use their German cars as daily drivers and their Italian cars as weekend toys. However, for Alfa to succeed in the USA, they are going to have to sell most of their cars as daily drivers. I just don't see Americans buying the Alfa name as an exotic weekend toy...not with the history they have had in the USA from the 60s and 70s as Italian MGs...so while I have no doubt that Alfa can sell 500 8Cs a year, that will not be enough to bring Alfa back to the USA...not for long anyway...
     
  24. KostMez

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    Fair enough, but they're definitely going to import the Brera and the 159. (In 2009 if I recall correctly)
     
  25. classic308

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    We in the U.S. can only hope....
     

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