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American "Muscle".. need some help. Z06? Viper? or.

Discussion in 'American Muscle' started by Matthew_Love84, Oct 28, 2006.

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  1. Matthew_Love84

    Matthew_Love84 Karting

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    Well, my wife's always been into american muscle cars.. if it's loud, she loves it.

    So, this puts me in a bit of a pickle. I want to get her a car she's going to enjoy, and love.. but something I can drive as well. This by no means is going to be a daily driver, BUT it could be driven quite a bit.

    At first I was thinking about looking around for a decent condition '68 camaro..but I feel that it would take too much time to get it the way I'd want it.

    So, I was thinking about a new C6 Z06 Corvette.. or a new Dodge Viper. Both around the same price range, but I just havnt had the chance to drive either of them.

    I've driven the C5 Z06 and the older vipers.. and they were fun cars, lots of power, but the handling just wasnt there.

    Has this changed? What would you guys shoot for? I know the viper has more of a "wow" factor as far as looks go.. but it seems like I've yet to hear any real bad news about the new Z06.

    I know there's a VIPER buff somewhere on these forums, feel like rining in?

    Thanks in advance :)
     
  2. Ferrari0324

    Ferrari0324 F1 Rookie

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    How about the new GT500?
     
  3. Ershank

    Ershank Formula Junior

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    I hope she gives you something nice....
     
  4. 8 SNAKE

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    A lot really depends on what your wife wants in a sports car. The Z06 will be more refined, offering more features and options. The Viper will be more raw (although the SRT line is a lot more refined than Gen 1 & 2). The Viper allows you the option of a convertible (if she cares about that) and has more of a visual impact to most people than the Vette.

    In the end, you need to have her drive both cars and see which one she likes. They're both great cars, but with very different personalities.
     
  5. FerrariF50lover

    FerrariF50lover Formula 3

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    The C6Z06 is faster then the viper but the viper is the nicer car. AJ knows both cars inside and out he should be able to tell you much more. The Z06 is well just a vette and the Viper is well a viper to the untrained eye the viper will get alot more looks.
     
  6. 6.0 se

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    Well..if this car is for your wife....you need to go to the Z06. More refined, more amenities, all the latest gadgets and gizmos, better gas mileage, easier to handle, traction control....and faster than a scalded dog. Get an '07...SOME of the bugs have been worked out. Just picked up an '07 last week...much better than the two 06's I had.

    No need to talk about the Viper if it is for your wife...Vipers and Women DO NOT MIX well...too harsh of a car...even the '06 Coupes, which are more refined than any previous Viper.

    The Shelby 500 would be a good possibility also. Good power...heavy car...good handling on the street (not the track), great looks.
     
  7. FerrariF50lover

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    Hey AJ, Is the viper really that much of a handful? Are you starting to like the Z06 and dare I say it but keep this one lol. Hows the gt?
     
  8. 6.0 se

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    Hey Nate. No...I don't like the Z. My reasons are numerous....but it's speed is not one of them!! It is a super quick car. I have ended up with the Z's because they were all trades on Vipers at my Friends Dodge dealership. He just wholesales them to me...and I flip them for a couple of bucks. He just took 2 more '06's last week.....I will be getting those also. No keeper!!

    The GT is great. Can't say enough positives about it. It now has a MASSIVE nitrous shot to go with the immense power it already had. Very cool to have a car that can handle all power you can throw at it...on untouched internals.
     
  9. stevehuck

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    I thought she wanted a Muscle car?
     
  10. Teenferrarifan

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    JTM GALLARDO will like this suggestion, but I think I would buy her a Cadillac XLR-V it is sporty, great exhaust sound, functional as a coupe/and drop top. The car is faster then a stock corvette and a few ticks behind a z06 but the car is very user friendly. Easy to get in and out, and the car feels light on its feet. Not to mention you can get some pretty good discounts on the car now! Just throwing it out there.
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  11. bostonmini

    bostonmini Formula 3

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    Any chance this one handles with any predictability? Id own one if I could be semi assured I wont be off the road in the first few miles, or at the first hint of a bump!

     
  12. ^@#&

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    I'm calling Cadillac to get you a sponsorship. You say XLR-V to everything.
     
  13. crazynova23

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    I know a lady who has an XLR-V, and she loves it. I don't care for it as much, I like the way it looks, but not the quality. She does love it however, and thats what counts I guess.
     
  14. 8 SNAKE

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    Mere semantics. Muscle and sport can be used interchangeable for the Z and Viper. They're both American "muscle" and American sports cars.
     
  15. 6.0 se

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    Well...the XLR-V is a terrific car.....but it is also 100 smooth, new. And it is more than a few ticks behind both the Z06 and Viper. I love the car...but at about 70k...new. But they depreciate like a rock..so a used '06 may be available for 50k soon.
     
  16. anunakki

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    My ex fiance used to love driving my '01 viper.

    I wouldnt rule it out for your wife until she tries it out..though AJ is the expert here as he probably owns more vipers than anyone else on the planet..lol

    Im kind of anti-C6Zo6 though...

    J
     
  17. Auraraptor

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    I would say look into the Cadillac XLR-V too, then Vette if its not fast enough.
     
  18. ROGUE GTS

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    If your wife is an above average driver she would love the viper but it is a handful at times. It will be pretty simple, she will either love it or hate it. If she hates it then vette all the way.

    Oh and if you buy a viper get a gen II, such a better looking car.
     
  19. 6.0 se

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    #19 6.0 se, Oct 29, 2006
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    Of course you meant IMO...right? I would not begin to agree with that statement.....IMHO. And additionally..the Gen 3's are much more suitable for a women. A more refined Viper..if there is such a thing. My '01 Bumblebee...and '06 Bumblebee.
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  20. JBsZ06

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    Most probably a Corvette convertible or a viper convertible would suit your wife more? Probably a good idea to ask if she wants a coupe or convertible body style...

    The new Ford Mustang Shelby convertible or hardtops are nice 2 + 2 seaters if she has little kiddies to drag along sometimes?


    Both the Viper and the C6 Z06 are nice cars. I don't think you can go wrong with either......still I prefer the active handling/competition mode of the C6 Z06 especially on the street with 500 hp ....(possible inclement weather on the street etc)

    As far as C5 Z06 not handling? Thats a bull**** line but each of us are entitled to our own opinions....

    Good luck in your search.

    Offer your wife a Jaguar convertible XKR and I think she'll go for it...or a MB SL55. Most women do if you show it to them and let them drive them. JMO

    LOL Otherwise take for a test drive of a Saturn Sky turbo..That little 30 grand roadsters a dam rocketship
     
  21. Buzz48317

    Buzz48317 F1 Rookie

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    The Z06 is sorta a handful. Have her drive both cars then decide.
     
  22. Pantera

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    Thats what I was thinking.

    You mention Muscle car I think of them old 60's style Chargers and Camaros of course there's always the 06 Charger or 300C with the Hemi.

    I wouldn't classifiy a Corvette as a Muscle car because its the greatest sportscar ever in my opinion and the Viper is an exotic car.
     
  23. FerrariF50lover

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    The vette in many owners eyes is a muscle car. IMO its a muscle car because it was a part of the muscle car era in the 60's with its 396, 427, and many more engines as well. The cars are a handful for sure. If she wants a muscle car but your looking for a cheaper way out you could always try a WS6, Camaro SS, or a 03/04 Cobra.
     
  24. Mike J

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    My wife went with the Z06 and I am trying to schedule the good folks in Old Lyme, CT to upgrade the interior. My wife wife was looking for a powerful car to replace her less than reliable SL55. She wanted something subtle and stylish. The Z06 fit the bill.

    She test drove the Viper and the Cayman. I have never liked the look of the Viper, especially its most recent iteration, but she liked it a lot. She felt the acceleration was comparabale to the Z06, but the Z06 felt more precise. She also liked the interior of the Corvette better than the Viper, so did I. Personally, I liked the way both cars drove. We then zipped over to the local Porsche dealer and took the Cayman S out for a test. It was a very nice car, but she preferred the looks of the Z06 and the Cayman was exceedingly short on power when compared to the Z06 or Viper.

    The Z06 is an incredible car. I think it looks great. I was never a fan of the C5, but the C6 is a nice evolution of that car and in Z06 guise it looks pretty darn good. At the end of the day, I am just happy to have the SL55 out of the garage.
     
  25. Pantera

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    Its definately got the heart of American Muscle under the hood. I guess they could because I see the Ford GT and GT-40 as Muscle cars because of those V-8's that they have.
     

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