360CS Cold Start Problem

hmm..me too

 

Supposedly there was a service bulletin for this, a few on the board have sent their cars in and FNA reflashes the ECU's. There are a few threads about it if you search. Make sure you talk to a dealer who has dealt with this before because some will deny it is a problem.

 

Yep - I had my ECUs sent to FNA and norecurrence of the problem since.

Remedy was always turn off, turn back on again and it'd be fine. The problem was the CEL would come on.

 

Yes, by all means have the ECU's reflashed. Not only does the car start better but it also runs better. Had mine done about a year ago. FNA marked the bottom of the ECU "Cold Start". It takes about a week start to finish.

 

hahaha, I live in Reno too and started CS today and it spit, sputtered and farted twice before I could get a decent idle. Ducati - does the new and improved ECU's help this (wink-wink) ?

 

Yes, to both questions.......

How is the NGT exhaust doing?

All is well here except I am not sure if I am happy with the Michelin PS2 tires. So far alot of understeer. I hope they get better as they break in.

 

First, I had start-up problems with my CS, as if it was firing on just one or two cylinders, chugging, then dying. Sometimes, I'd fire it up, but then once moving, the chugging, then dying would occur. I'd pull over, turn things off, try again. Got the ECUs reflashed at the dealer on two occasions after this happening and haven't had the problem since. The advice my mechanic repeated was; if you encounter problems, turn the car off, then activate ignition (not starting up) to allow ECU to reset and observe all codes are "GO", then start. In other words, don't be in a hurry to start the CS. Give the ECU time to take stock and make needed settings.

Second, even when everything is functioning OK, I've learned to adapt to the way my CS starts up insofar as one bank of cylinders seems to fire up first, takes a few seconds to get stable and running, then the other bank of cylinders fires up, resulting in smooth idle, overall. Having said this, start up of my CS is NEVER as effortless, smooth, easy, thoughtless and worry free as, say, my BMW M5 or Honda CRV. Those cars start up like Singer sewing machines, and just purr effortlessly. In contrast, its as if my CS needs to annouce its starting up, convey that its not that easy, then announce its firing all cylinders, then convey we've got take off, with the result, OK now you can relax.

Once take off point is achieved and we venture out for a drive, starting up after a stop is always immediate + effortless and I never notice any start issues at all.

Hope this is useful. Good luck!

 

I had the ECU reflash done by FNA over a year ago. Since then, cold start problems are a non-issue. This cold start issue is very common and the reflash totally has resolved the issue. Done at no cost under warrantee.

 

Interesting, especially since my 360 (gone now) and 430 start with no issues.

Gary

 

It was definitely to do with it actually being cold. I only ever really got it if I left the car parked out side after October in New England. It was fine in the summer. I'm guessing that being in california you'd never have the problem. It was specifically a CS issue also, never had the same issue with my previous 360.

 

Good point. I think in my garage it was probably never colder than 40 or so, at the worst.

Gary

 

My CS doesn't have this cold start problem... may be because I live in Thailand, the coldest day around my town is 16 degree C...ha ha. It always starts right up with no more than3 sec of starting motor turning.

I do disconnect the battery most of the time (I drive it once every 3 weeks now... I know, I know...will drive more).

 

Had this prob on my CS about 6k needed new ECU,s think its a common prob on the 360 not just the CS.

J

 

Yes, the temperature factor applies to my CS as well, located in Vancouver, parked in a rather chilly concrete garage. Did not have the same issue with my 04-360 modena, parked in the same place however. It's not that I can't live with how my CS starts (with ECUs reflashed), its just that its a sufficiently rough start almost every time as to get my attention. I'd prefer the old 360 start or the smooth 430 start noted by Gary.

 

My CS does the same sputtering start - only when cold and not driven in a few days. However, my dealer (Shelton Ferrari) told me it was normal, and nothing to worry about.

 

check your spark plugs, make sure they are not loose. only will take hour to do it so not a bad place to start. denso IR plugs are good stuff.

 

The last time this happened to me, I got a CEL and it did not go away.

 

just take your car to the authorized dealer nearest to you and they will send both ECU's to Englewood Cliffs, NJ (FNA) to reflash them. Once that's done, the car never has the problem again. Easy fix. Should take 3 days for everything. good luck!

 

today when I started CS I did what shawsan said, wait until computer says Ok before pressing Start, and car started much easier. I'll still get the ECUs reflashed next spring but just wanted to pass that if on.