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  1. CUE99T

    CUE99T Formula Junior

    Feb 28, 2004
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    Paul
    Hi Ken,

    Inky here.....done a hudson and changed id to match my plate.....anyhoos, dunno how the backend of vbulletin works but usually an ISP is assigned a set of numbers i.e. IP addresses but I cannae see you being able to pull much more than a previous poster from a vbulletin point of view, ask a mod for that one.

    The thing is with broadband you get a thing called DHCP so anyone could in theory have an IP similar or even match yours if your offline and the ISP has changed a config, and truth be told you'll never know and neither will the ISP what IP you got without busting the Data Protection Act I'd think.

    I think you guys with limited knowledge of IP should understand your chasing a dogs tail!! Adam PM me the IP address and I'll see what I can find out mate.

    If it was Steve then ban the profile, and if it wasn't then ban "it" anyway!!
     
  2. jrs

    jrs Formula 3

    Jun 14, 2003
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    James S
    ? comments please mods
     
  3. CUE99T

    CUE99T Formula Junior

    Feb 28, 2004
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    To be fair to Steve he's not a stupid guy, however the technical version would be - If he used another provider it would change, and as Adam says he had various in the past so why not now? That only Steve could answer I think.

    It totally depends on the provider there is no hard and fast rule to this Nigel, some offer static and some do DHCP which yes everytime you cannect it could be different but would most likely be the same (too technical to rationale that one)


    From who mate, Hazy? He spotted what he thought was Stevef

    From reading between the lines it look kinda like he wouldnae let go of the situation causing unrest, which I'm sure the guys in the private section but also in the main section were talking about anyone who caused unrest would have a ban as it only causes disruption - temp or not I'm unsure.



    Anything else you want explained like the colour of the sky or the moon gravitational (easily said) pull cos a cannae see why your giving Hazy such a hard time here!
     
  4. CUE99T

    CUE99T Formula Junior

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    TBH I think this thread should be closed as everything was good uptil this happened!!!
     
  5. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    i've seen host and ip address and they aren't steve's .Wrong part of country and wrong isp.
     
  6. Hazy

    Hazy F1 Rookie
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    sorry James!!


    The initial ban was after being asked to take things offline, re Argento Steve refused and continued to conduct the disageement online and was subsequently banned.He disrupted a pefectly good thread.Steve knows he did. I had no part in the thread whatsoever so my knowledge of this is limited.

    I genuinely have no idea how IP's and all that stuff works, so less of the accusations please.This may or may not be a stitch up but SOMEONE is playing me up so i have dealt with it. Perhaps me dealing with this swiftly will send out the right message to any trolls who fancy a pop. They wont last a second. I am perfectly qualified to sniff out a wind up, I have trained many years at it :D
     
  7. KenC

    KenC Formula 3

    Dec 7, 2003
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    A very good effort to explain this but unfortunately it's still beyond my comprehension. All I know is what I have read in the past and IP addresses have been used to prove/ disprove certain things.

    Cheers Ink...., I mean CUE99T ;) .
     
  8. LeeP

    LeeP Formula 3
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    Adam,

    "Jumping ship before it's sank!"

    SteveF, as you know, is probably in the boozer every friday night and will probably be there til midnight! If Steve has a problem, we all know he'll post it on CS to cause a stir ;)

    His ISP, I can confirm isn't that from which this IP was posted.

    But yes, a public apology is in order AND AN EXPLANATION should be made about his ban (first one that Rob won't comment on).
     
  9. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    "fitzy123" does NOT match any users here or on CS ...
     
  10. KenC

    KenC Formula 3

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    With respect (i.e. I disagree ;) ), you did not deal swiftly with a troll or a wind up, as at that time you thought it was Steve.
     
  11. LeeP

    LeeP Formula 3
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    Ken - most internet providers allocated IP addresses (sort of a personal phone number) dynamically. That means that each time you are offline your connection may drop and the next time it connects you get a different IP address. At any one point in the public internet, there can only be ONE of that IP address. No others. This value is normally on a lease from the provider for about 3 hours - sometimes more. All depends on what you get for your money. There is a good chance that say, me and you were on BT we may at some point have had the same IP address.

    Different providers in different parts of the country have local "allocation" servers thus you'll always get a number starting 81.44.ab.xy if you're a BT user in the north of england. In this way, you can localise an address range/provider. If the address that FITZY123 posted from was 213.253.xx.yy then a quick search will show this address is in London and is likely to be someone pratting about.

    Hope this sort of helps!
     
  12. CUE99T

    CUE99T Formula Junior

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    Can we get back to reality please or I'm off to polish off the last of the Jack Daniels and watch some Heartbeat as it has to be better that this crud!!!
     
  13. CUE99T

    CUE99T Formula Junior

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    From the heart Lee, stick to what yer good at.........which is not IT!!
     
  14. Hazy

    Hazy F1 Rookie
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    thanks Tone, I'll seek the advice of mods more experienced than me

    Whos jumping ship?? not me you aint that lucky.

    steve disrupted the boxer thread. he wouldnt leave it. He got banned. And I JUST MADE AN EXPLANATION. now give it a rest and go play elsewhere ay? ;)
     
  15. LeeP

    LeeP Formula 3
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    You didn't mind participating a few posts ago ;)

    Go and get drunk. Don't read what don't interest ya :D
     
  16. CUE99T

    CUE99T Formula Junior

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    Np mate, just trying to make sense of a situation which I think is pointless!!!!

    IP's are useless for verifying someone as they "could" change and neither the user or the "site" would know, I guess that is what I was trying to explain.
     
  17. LeeP

    LeeP Formula 3
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    No thanks,

    Someone's gotta babysit the new guy. HAHAHAHAHAHAA

    By the way, he hardly disrupted it anymore than you do mi laddo.

    When / if Steve comes back, you'll have to be squeaky clean! You know what he's like. Tunnel vision!
     
  18. Hazy

    Hazy F1 Rookie
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    exactly:D:D:D
     
  19. Hazy

    Hazy F1 Rookie
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    like the public apology I will get from Steve apologizing for accusing me and Hudson of creating Fitzy123??? ;););)
     
  20. KenC

    KenC Formula 3

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    Yes, I see what is being said. Its just that it appears to be different from what was said in other ocassions. Perhaps its just me not understanding before.

    Anyway, it appears that there will be no reesolution to this so we may as well move on from here. Unfortunately the guilty party will has got away with it.

    Let Steve serve his original ban and lets get back to business as usual.
     
  21. Hazy

    Hazy F1 Rookie
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    amen Ken, thank you.

    This is my last post on this thread, if it gets silly I will lock it if I need to, so no more beligerent badgering of the new mod ay dudes???? ;)
     
  22. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    interesting Lee... what part of country would have 80.225. XXXXXXXXX ?
     
  23. CUE99T

    CUE99T Formula Junior

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    Amen brother!!!!!
     
  24. rmdferrari

    rmdferrari Formula 3

    Jan 6, 2005
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    Will stevef's origional ban stand, without the 2nd offence plonked on top????? And is he due any form of appology for his good name being maligned???
     
  25. CUE99T

    CUE99T Formula Junior

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    you know already!!!!
     

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