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Gallardo: 6SP OR E-GEAR ?

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  1. Greg Z

    Greg Z Formula Junior

    Oct 22, 2006
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    Gregory L. Zelinski
    I'm intrested in the Gallardo and I am a manual shift type of guy. But I'm wondering how long the the factory clutch will last? Maintence is a big concern because I will be putting alot more miles on it than the typical Lambo/Ferrari owner. So, question is this, How long will a clutch last?, How much to replace it at the Dealer? What else do I need to know? If the answers to these questions are not positive then I assume the E-Gear is the better choice?, What issues are there with the E-Gear?
    The G will be used out of warranty also.
    Thnx in advance, Greg Z
     
  2. GregTe

    GregTe Formula Junior

    May 3, 2004
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    I've driven both and I'd go 6 speed all the way, way more fun to drive. To me the feel run running a shifter through a gate and pushing a clutch is what driving a sports car is all about. It's too bad that these companys are trying to sell the Wanna-be F1 racers on the paddle shifters, it spoils the true sports car feel.
     
  3. TeamF1Jr

    TeamF1Jr Formula 3

    Nov 8, 2003
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    6-speed owner here. I have driven both and to me the 6-speed just makes the whole experience of the Gallardo just that much more. I admit its great to hear the rev matching downshifts of a paddle shift, but it just wasn't as fun as ripping through the gated plate. Everyone is different, go with what is the most fun. No glitches with my 6-speed so far on the technical/warranty side of your question.
     
  4. bboxer

    bboxer Formula Junior

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    I had a 6sp G for little over a year and I now have an Egear.
    EGear suits the character of the car better IMO and if you are anywhere near competitive driving, the gated shifter is a real handicap. Back in the 50's there were people who thought power assisted disc brakes took all the fun ouut of driving and drum brakes were the macho thing to have. A few more years and the stick will be a relic of the past.
     
  5. mhh

    mhh F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2004
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    I've done a lot of miles in e-gears (currently on my second Gallardo) and have had only a short drive in a manual. The e-gear isn't as good as the F1 in a F430 but it is better to drive than a manual Gallardo IMO. The manual in the G felt too heavy and slow - but others swear by it so there is no easy answer.
     
  6. Greg Z

    Greg Z Formula Junior

    Oct 22, 2006
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    I'm beginning to see that.

    I'm sure the manual way will suit my taste better, but I would be possibly willing to give that up so I don't have expensive clutch replacements.
    My main question here is reliabilty issues with the drivetrain, How long will a clutch last and how much, compared to the reliabilty of the E-Gear?
     
  7. BoulderFCar

    BoulderFCar F1 World Champ
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    A matter of what you like to be sure.

    The EGear is brilliant on the track and fun on a test drive. To me, any of the F1, EGear, SMG, boxes feel clunky around town and they are always a bit off of what I want them to do. The G box is a bit cold blooded and I always wonder about how the EGear still "forces" a shift even when cold. A lot of load on the forks getting slamed. That said, I baby my trans until warm so I might be worrying about it too much.

    I love the gated shifter. Kind of has that 30.06 bolt action satisfaction.
     
  8. asianbond

    asianbond Formula 3

    Nov 8, 2003
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    if you're seriously buying a 165k plus supercar I suspect the enjoyment factor should outweigh concerns about cost of clutch replacment. Life of all cutches are mainly determined by your driving style.

    It's like asking what is the gas mileage for a Lambo. Who gives a shiet?

    Just go with what you like.
     
  9. Sportscarnut

    Sportscarnut Formula Junior

    Sep 12, 2005
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    Well said asianbond.

    The E-gear or F1 is much more efficient if your cooking down a mountain road or tracking the car.

    A Manual 6 speed is better suited for street use IMO and a whole heck of a lot more fun to drive. Personally, I like to clutch it all to often to hear the engine sing, and banging the gears the old fashion way is just more fun for me.

    It's personal preference all the way, drive both and make up your own mind.

    Don’t worry about cost, it’s an Exotic $$$$ :)
     
  10. pdisme

    pdisme Formula 3

    Oct 9, 2006
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    Egear vs manual is all a matter of personal preference. If anything, the clutch in an egear would likely wear out sooner if you do city driving because I've found it is very slow to let out if you're in a place you have to accelerate from a stop slowly, so you're probably doing decent wear on it in that kind of environment. I've driven both and I prefer the egear in my G because I like both hands on the wheel and the fact that the egear shifts faster than I could ever do manually; not as nice and smooth as the 430 but nearly there. I've talked to people who don't take their G's to the track that have 20,000+ miles on the original clutch with no indication it's about to get to that point, it seems very reliable regardless of transmission so I'd just drive both and get the one you enjoy more; no sense settling for less to save a few grand a year or two down the road.
     
  11. Greg Z

    Greg Z Formula Junior

    Oct 22, 2006
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    I understand what you're saying and should've expected such an answer from someone here.
    As far as enjoyment goes I do want a stick. But you say life of ALL clutches are mainly detemined by driving style. ? I can drive a Lambo or a Corvette the same way and the clutch will last the same amount of time? No, I didn't think so! Lambo (at least the big body Lambos) clutchs go fast and are extremly expensive to replace, thats what I'm trying to avoid. Not everyone on this board can afford to just go and write a check for an exotic and I am one of them so maintence is of a concern.
    Based off the opinions on this thread I'm sure that I want a stick for my personal driving taste & demands.
    But, How long does the clutch last?
    How much is it to replace?
    or
    Is the car still too new for anyone to know the answers to these questions?
    I'm presuming clutches are not corvered under warranty?
    I'm searching pre-owned so warranty really isn't an issue though.
     
  12. pdisme

    pdisme Formula 3

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    It's still a true statement; any car with 500+ horsepower will wear a clutch faster than one with 300 HP but how you drive it will have an effect regardless.

    There's many instances of Gallardo's with 15,000 or even 25,000 miles or more on the original clutch. I believe replacement is a few thousand dollars. You'd be better off worrying about where you're going to insure it since the wrong choice there will cost you a lot more than what the clutch will cost you after a year or two of high mileage driving. :) I went with Allstate, got a great deal.
     
  13. doltmo

    doltmo Karting

    Mar 27, 2006
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    My dealer quoted something just shy of $5K. One nice thing about the G is that you don't need to pull the engine to replace the clutch.
     

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