Sounds like a step in the right direction. Personally I think a Ferrari should be really hard to drive ... infact a challenge. Thus in my mind this sort of confirms that the Testarossa and 512TR are/were soft ... naturally to wider their audience/market (which makes mucho sense from a selling point of view). Pete
If I remember it correctly, Acura NSX since the first release of their 3.0-V6 has Titanium Con-Rods too. I don't think they have to change the con-rods that often.
The 512 TR Speciale was almost the same as a 512 TR. The cars have special three piece wheels, a Scuderia Ferrari badge on the front fenders and a deep red / maroon colour, which is called Wine-red metallic. It has nothing to do with the F512 M. For a picture, please check my website: www.red-headed.com -> Articles -> TR Speciale Register -> 512 TR Speciale.
the 355 and 360 also have ti connecting rods..they do not have to be changed in these cars an d i have not heard of any failure of these in these..
I remember reading that the 512M's motor sits lower in the chassis to improve handling. However, I can't find any info online to verify that this is correct.
Awesome!!! Thanks for the pics - Finally a pic of my rims on a factory TR!! Image Unavailable, Please Login
This is slightly correct. The 512TR's engine sits lower since Ferrari removed one of the subframes. Thus, its engine compared to the TR is lower. This was retained in the F512M
f512m 512tr and testarossa all need a rear spoiler from hamman Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
that wing does look cool, got any other pics or a web site where I can see them??? Wonder what a F40 style/size wing would look on a TR?
Time and time again, the F512M and 512 TR comparisons. The 512 Tr and the F512M. Both cars were modified from the Testarossa. The F512M and 512 TR had a newer air intake systems. New Pistons flatter torque curve and better acceleration. Quicker steering respons lower profile tires new shocks which helped improve handling. The F512M BPH usa version is at 432 Horse power. Euro is 440 bhp. The 512 tr is 421 us version. The syling of the two cars are very much different. The 512tr is an improvement over the Testarossa Model. Cleaner lines, new front bip and spoiler. Inside of the 512 TR and the F512m are very much a like. With the new center console arrangements of the instuments. The seats were re designed and lowered. Overall both the F512M and 512 TR are an improvement over the Testarossa. There is a slight difference between the 512 TR and F512M. F512M has a slighter higher top speed. Better transmission and different gearing. also weights a bit less too.. If you going for the look then go for the 512 tr. But if you going for the final Testarossa last of the mid 12 flag ships then go with the best its the F512M...
2LEMANS (or anyone else), Since you seem to be familiar with the difference between the two cars, maybe you can help me out here... Ferrari North America's old web site, in its description of the Testarossa series, indicated that "late model" (that is, 1994) 512s tr had "revised steering" and, of course, anti-lock brakes. So, I ask you, to what extent is there less of a difference between the 1994 512tr and the F512m than between the 1992-1993 512s tr and the F512m? PS On another note, I think the fact that Ferrari North America took down the informative FerrariNA web site, complete with descriptions of many of the great cars, is possibly the most absurd thing ever.
348 SSTB in regards to your question from 1992 -1993 the 512 TR models were the same. However in 1994 (ABS) were installed. whiched helped reduce stopping. ABS also helped in the rain. the main difference between the 1994 512 TR and 1995 f512m model is looks weight and gearing changes. has the same ABS systems. and bosch system. hope this helps you out a bit. john
The M also has different pistons which increase the compression ratio to 11.4:1 versus, I believe, 11:1 for the 512TR. The M is clearly faster, based upon my experience with both. Also, the M has a stiffer rear anti roll bar which made a noticeable difference at Roebling Road in terms of its tendency(much reduced) versus the 512tr towards twitchiness/overstear at the limit. I had both cars on that track several times and the M was much easier to drive quickly.
Yeah, must be a slight typo, but the M's engine compression ratio is raised over the 512TR, and is actually 10.4:1 compared to 10.1:1 for the "regular" 512TR. Never the less, the TR and M are really awesome cars. I wish Ferrari would bring back the flat 12.
Interesting that someone resurrected this old but cool thread! I would choose the M: the best and last of the flat 12 series (performance wise) and also the rarest of them. I know this wasn't the original question, but I personally prefer the performance updates of the M under the skin of the original Testarossa, for to me, this is the prettiest and most aggressive shape... And best in dark blue (yes, I am biased!)
Hey B!!! I post for the first time in a long while and I see we are still on the same "wavelength"!! A typo indeed... don't you wish they had compression ratios above 11?!! Good luck on your upcoming phone call. M.
