Anyone switch from Lamborghini to Ferrari

nope, nobody ever does that.

 

I'd be willing to switch from a 308 to any old ratty but running 350Gt any day of the week.

 

There is a pretty big thread over in the Lambo section titled, "Finally made the switch from Ferrari to Lamborghini!"

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130771

Cheers

 

Yep, and I have a few friends that have.

I never actually 'switched' though, I just stopped driving them. I've owned F-cars continuously, for close to 40 years.

 

Sorry but they are glorified Audi's.

 

Lambos are for looks; Ferraris are for driving. The Diablo and later are drivable.

I will say, the Countach is not a car to drive, it's a car to look at.

Yes, it's a work of art; as a driver it's abominable!

If anyone wants a Countach, just hang it on a wall.

 

And Ferraris are glorified FIATS what's your point ?

 

Wow, this has been rehashed a lot.

Audi has done great things for Lambo through direct component sharing. Really - from what I've seen the newest Lambos are worlds better than the old Jalpas and Countachs. I believe the V10 has been used in Audis as well as Lambos. I'd say Lamborghini is thriving, but it's fair to say it has deep Audi ties/roots now. All for the better. I wouldn't confuse a Gallardo and an A8, so the "glorified Audi" comment is kind of reaching.

The Fiat-Ferrari relationship is pretty much an accounting construct, IIRC. No Fiat Panda parts in the Fiorano 599, in other words. Ferrari has also always made its own engines, fielded race teams and so on -- there's amazing tradition behind the prancing horse. Lambo will always trail Ferrari, and to some extent Porsche, in that respect.

 

yup, I have. Switched from a '75 Urraco to a '77 carbed Boxer.

 

Actually, if they stay in the hobby long enough...most of them will switch from Lambo to Ferrari... when they get older and wiser and truely appreciate a true art and appreciate the classic Ferraris. Instead of appreciating the pulling power.... No classic Lambo price or appreciation will get ever close to that of Ferrari....

 

Well... try a Miura, that IS appreciating and will continue to do so.

 

Actually Miuras and early Countachs are rapidly appreciating in the US. I'm shocked at what I've seen some sell compared to what they were selling for just a few years ago.

 

I used to think the way that a majority of "purists" think, in that Audi is ruining Lamborghini, that it's taking away the magic that the brand used to have. Then I got to ride in a Gallardo Spyder, and the roar of the V10 overshadowed the SD memory card slots behind the fold-down Nav screen. Those two items combined into one car is like peanut butter and jelly.

Also there was a Countach, an early model. To compare the two on interior merits was laughable. The Gallardo seemed like a place you'd actually want to sit, the cockpit of the Countach seemed like a dungeon you had to suffer through to get to the sweet V12 music.

I could sit in the Gallardo all day and not get bored or tired.

 

Yea... the very top best most appreciated Lambo is the Miura... 300,000 dollars plus VS the 250 GTO... 5 million dollar plus. and both had relatively closed at original price.

 

I think Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear put it best:

"All the switches and knobs in the Gallardo come from an Audi A8, so they just sort of...work. The air conditioning in Lambos of old were like an asthmatic sitting behind the dash blowing through a straw. That didn't work."

The Audi influence should be less next year when all Lambos get bespoke interior bits and pieces. The engineering will still be heavily German-influenced, but I don't think that's a bad thing. But I do agree, there's something quite sterile about precise German-engineering. Doesn't quite have the flair that real Italian cars do, no matter how temperamental they may be.

-James
My new love: Alfa Romeo 8c Spider

 

I switched from a Gallardo to a 360 spider and then 4 weeks later to a Murcielago. The cars are so different that there is not much of a comparison. The 360 definitely much more of a driver car. The road feel in the Ferrari is unmatched by the Gallardo or the Murcie. I'm told the 430 is the same but with more power. In the 360 you feel like the car is an extension to your body and brain with bionic power. So why did I switch back? Well, IMHO the Ferrari interior is junk. Knobs always coming loose, sticky rubber, cheap switches ect. My 06 Nissan Frontier PU has a better interior fit and finish and it's a 14k car. Perhaps this is because it is really a race car fitted with a livable interior. On the positive side it felt very solid and the exterior was a work of art. The 430 seems to have addressed most of the interior issues even though it looks almost the same.

The Gallardo does have kind of a Audi interior feel to it to some extent. The Murcielago though feels and looks like a rocket ship both inside and out. Sounds like it too when you start up and when you mash the pedal at 3500+ rpms, the grunt power is amazing.

If I ever go back to a Ferrari it will probably be a 360CS. I just can't handle paying 75k or more over sticker for a 430 so that is out of the question for now. The CS has a minimal interior but what do you expect, it's a real race car.

 

Thanks for a sane, civilized and thoughtful comment.

 

I've never regretted rebodying the Fiero from Lambo to F-car.

 

Life is way too short to be brand centric. Enjoy them both:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130333

 

I've switched. Several times. I currently have a 2000 456M, now in the shop for leaking valve guides at 24k miles (see the 456/550 forum for details and many pictures). I've had an 85 Countach 5000s, a 94 Diablo VT, and a 2001 Diablo 6.0. On the Ferrari side, it's been a couple of 308s, an 88.5 TR, a 355, and now the 456.

In general, I find the Lamborghinis have been more reliable, not quite as civilized, and slightly better performers. Ferrari interiors are inferior, the Ferrari's are constantly in need of repair and attention (I've yet to own a V12 Ferrari that hasn't been in the shop for major engine repairs); every Lambo V12 I've owned I've both been able to service myself and has been quite reliable. The biggest issue with the later Lambos is check engine lights (a subject I could write a book on; and oh yeah, the Diablos eat clutches for lunch); the Ferrari's issues tend to be cat fires (my TR), valve guides (355 and 456), dissolving interiors, and other deep, expensive problems. Despite this, I still buy and enjoy the Ferraris.

Frankly, there's no rationale justification for either of these brands. You can buy better performers, better reliability, more comfortable, more easily maintained, more high-tech cars at 1/4 the price. The only thing the Italian exotics have is exclusivity and style. That's it. And you pay dearly to experience this. And given that style is really the only thing these cars have going for them, it becomes a very individual choice as to which model/marquee you like. Trying to say Ferrari has this or Lamborghini has that is kinda laughable. None of them make any sense; so buy what your heart wants and don't try to justify it.

 

Countachs??? They are still well under $100K; about the same as a Boxer. Miuras are indeed up there! Well north of $300k but then many 60's era Ferraris are equal or over that. No Lambo comes close to vintage Ferrari pricing (i.e. demand) except the Miura.

Ken