Stef430, Down in Richmond, VA here... If it is OK to ask... how long have you had your relationship with the dealer? I know most dealers have closed their F430 waiting lists and have stopped taking orders. You got to start somewhere??? My experience with dealers has generally sucked. They have far more demand than supply. They can act however they want and they will sell. So, found my 2005 F360 at a dealer, they told me if I bought it they would put me on their F430 list. I guess everyone's first Ferrari is a used Ferrari. I doubt I will ever see an F430 and will most likely have to go out on the secondary market and try to find one as new as possible with low miles and pay a premium. Pretty much sucks. Either I pay $40K over sticker for an F430, or go buy a Maserati QP and suck up to the dealer, whatever, but will probably lose $40K on the QP, so either way, it is a pretty crappy experience. I thought operating in this price range would lead to the white glove treatment but the Toyota dealer treats me better.