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Jerez test day # 1

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  1. YellowbirdRS

    YellowbirdRS Formula 3

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    Time table:

    .1. - Pedro De la Rosa (ESP/Mclaren) 1.20.001 (108 vueltas)
    .2. - Alex Wurz (AUT/Williams) 1.20.036 (72)
    .3. - Robert Kubica (POL/BMW) 1.20.159 (46)
    .4. - Lewis Hamilton (GBR/Mclaren) 1.20.233 (111)
    .5. - Kimi Raikkonen (FIN/Ferrari) 1.20.245 (86) :(
    .6. - Ralf Schumacher (ALE/Toyota) 1.20.254 (55)
    .7. - Jenson Button (GBR/Honda) 1.20.371 (99)
    .8. - Franck Montagny (FRA/Toyota) 1.20.409 (46)
    .9. - Nico Rosberg (ALE/Williams) 1.20.525 (62)
    10. - Luca Badoer (ITA/Ferrari) 1.20.666 (62) :(
    11. - Sebastián Vettel (ALE/BMW) 1.20.715 (51)
    12. - David Coulthard (GBR/Red Bull) 1.21.021 (48)
    13. - Nelson Piquet (BRA/Renault) 1.21.264 (117)
    14. - Ricardo Zonta (BRA/Renault) 1.21.392 (67)
    15. - Mark Webber (AUS/Red Bull) 1.21.858 (27)
    16. - Christian Klien (AUT/Honda) 1.22.083 (35)
     
  2. senna21

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    Don't be so sad Yellowbird!

    First it's only testing.

    Second, take a good look at the times. The first SIX cars are all within .3 seconds of each other. The first Eight cars are within .5 seconds of each other. That's nice and close. Also McLaren drove 224 laps in total. That does 2 times the number most teams did during the day.

    Third I'm just happy Williams is next to the top of the sheet. Let's hope the engine freeze and hard tires do even things out and we have a good close season.

    This year I'm pulling for Toyota, Williams and Super Aguri. It's the year of the underdogs for me. I'm also very happy when Kimi wins regardless of what he's driving.
     
  3. Lukas

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    I agree with senna21, the times between the top 8 are very close.
    One thing that is a bit strange is that Ferrari isn't putting in more laps, look at McLaren they drive tons of laps each test day, how come Ferrari is not?
     
  4. Remy Zero

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    yea. testing means nothing, most of the time. but, i've gotta admit. the Mac seems to be fast in the hands of FA, Lewis, and now PDLR.
     
  5. YellowbirdRS

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    That is my concern 224 laps and no any engine failure :( Pedro De la Rosa & Lewis Hamilton .209 sec faster than our F2007 with our new Astro driver :D
     
  6. Senna1994

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    Guys it doesn't matter who wins the winter championship, it matters who wins the Season Championship.

    How about that Peter Sauber shooting his mouth off against Kimi once again.
     
  7. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1
     
  8. ProCoach

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    +2
     
  9. classic308

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    When the green flag drops, the BS stops....
     
  10. Wolfgang5150

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    Are Ferrari still using last year's front & rear wings? I thought I read that they were not going to have the new wings until closer to the first race. Can anyone confirm this?
    McLaren have looked consistently strong........
    Kevin S.
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  11. GSport

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    lets nto forget, historically ferrari tests with more fuel than most. The improtant thing is consistancy over long runs vs. the one fast lap. I read in some other articles that the times Mclaren are setting were on very low fuel levels. Ferrari never plays its hand this early. usually they hide a fiorano where no one can see. i wouldnt worry. my biggest concern is their choice of long wheel base vs. everyone else who went shorter wheel base. more aerodynamic but less nimble and harder to set up due to lack of ability to move ballast around.
     
  12. Wolfgang5150

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    The long wheelbase is certainly a concern. Hope they didn't have a major miscalculation in the design room. Right now, they are close to the pace, but not on it yet.........
     
  13. Remy Zero

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    well, yeah. there's been some controversy, about the longer wheelbase. but i suspect there's some trick up their sleeve.
     
  14. Senna1994

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    I think the wheelbase issue will be a non event, although a bit harder to set up, the biggest problem is the rear tires. However, I don't think Bridgestone would steer (no pun intended) them wrong after so many seasons.
     
  15. GSport

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    well massa showed up with top test time today in Jerez!
     
  16. senna21

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    I'm guessing this is to help with "anit-squat" to help them get off the line better. We all know Renault's had better mechanical traction than Ferrari in the last couple of years. Having a longer wheel base would allow them more rear suspension options. A longer wheel base also means greater high speed stability. Given Kimi's driving style I don't think he'll have any problem pitching this car around. If anything it may help save these harder tires.
     
  17. classic308

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  18. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    hehe...great early mornin news for me
     
  19. ingegnere

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    Haven't read about McLaren running with low fuel levels, but they usually run well in the winter tests. They tend to be marginal on cooling, so their problems show up at the hotter races - let's hope.

    About Ferrari's long wheelbase, I suspect that they learned something from running Bridgestones in 2005 on which the 2007 tires are supposedly based. They are the only current team in F1 to have used the Bridgestones in 2005!

    As pointed out elsewhere, a longer wheelbase helps stability at speed, but also reduces the amount of weight transfer during braking and acceleration - good thing to have with less grippy tires.

    Finally, although moving the front axle forward puts more weight on the back axle (not a good thing since apparently the 2007 rear tires are marginal) it does provide more space for putting ballast forward of the driver's seat.
     
  20. 1_can_dream

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    I was excited too!!! here's the times for day 2

    Jerez - 7/02/07
    1. F. Massa - Ferrari F2007 - 1'19"746 (+0"000) - 46 laps
    2. L. Hamilton - McLaren Mercedes MP4/22 - 1'19"821 (+0"075) - 109 laps
    3. R. Kubica - BMW Sauber F1.07 - 1'19"839 (+0"093) - 96 laps
    4. F. Alonso - McLaren Mercedes MP4/22 - 1'20"046 (+0"300) - 101 laps
    5. K. Raikkonen - Ferrari F2007 - 1'20"068 (+0"322) - 46 laps
    6. N. Piquet - Renault R27 - 1'20"070 (+0"324) - 76 laps
    7. A. Wurz - Williams Toyota FW29 - 1'20"132 (+0"386) - 78 laps
    8. N. Rosberg - Williams Toyota FW29 - 1'20"143 (+0"397) - 66 laps
    9. R. Schumacher - Toyota TF107 - 1'20"604 (+0"858) - 59 laps
    10. M. Webber - Red Bull Renault RB3 -1'20"629 (+0"883) - 36 laps
    11. D. Coulthard - Red Bull Renault RB3 - 1'20"702 (+0"956) - 70 laps
    12. N. Heidfeld - BMW Sauber F1.07 - 1'20"710 (+0"964) - 80 laps
    13. J. Button - Honda RA107 - 1'20"751 (+1"005) - 100 laps
    14. R. Zonta - Renault R27 - 1'20"767 (+1"021) - 86 laps
    15. J. Trulli - Toyota TF107 - 1'20"898 (+1"152) - 80 laps
    16. M. Andretti - Honda RA106 - 1'22"151 (+2"405) - 74 laps

    Press release Ferrari
     
  21. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    good stuff. i really hope williams do well this year. i wonder why RB is still down there. i read some reports earlier saying the team has teething troubles...
     

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