Veyron vs. Yamaha R1 vs. Carrera GT on Autobahn *video*

dont know. Dont really care. If the cars have a higher top speed than the bike and given enough space they would pass it.... so?

 

The cars werent on it going through the tunnel - they were doing 30 - with their brake lights on! So hopefully the R1 should be able to go faster than that.

The R1 would really not have any chance against a Veyron. Maybe stay close to 100MPH. Veyron does that in just under 6 secs. From there, the bike's aerodynamics would count heavily against it.

 

Didn't mean anything by it...just asking your opinion because you have more seat time on two wheels than I do. I too saw the opening on the inside, and agree that the bike could have "destroyed" the cars in that particular curve. I was simply wondering how hard he would have had to exit the tunnel and enter the freeway to stay ahead, and how long you think he could have held the advantage. That's all.

 

That Veyron is awesome!

 

Im well aware of that. This is why most street racers go from a 40 punch while racing bikes. Im not saying the R1 is faster then a veyron but its not that much slower.

 

IMO the Veyron was holding back on the bends due to limited sight lines, I think the biker was doing the same? Either way, there is no way a bike is going to out corner a car like the Veyron.

 

There is a worthy challenger in the Ultima GTR which could go headsup with a Veyron in all types of races except from a roll and a standing mile other than that its time the veyron challenges something with a pair of wings!.

 

Unless you have driven an R1 it is very hard to wrap your brain around how hard those cars accelerate. Plain crazy

 

This is the first time in history cars have been built (road cars) that can compete with bikes right? I mean, the Enzo (0-60) and now this Veyron...

It's incredible if you think about it, a car outperforming a bike! Mother of pearl...

 

A 1000cc bike yes a 600 no. A C6 Z06, viper, FGT will all run away from a 600.

 

Well I'm sure there have always been cars that could outrun/perform "certain" bikes...

 

My thoughts exactly. I find it hard to believe believe the bike would get left so badly in a straight line. There is no doubting that the Bug is quick though. If the stuff was 150MPH plus thenthe R1 would struggle.
I would love to see the Veryon meet this bike on the road. 180MPH wheelies anyone ?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W37LogtWs1Y

 

You're missing something important with the Ultima GTR and other cars who may have similar acceleration and top speeds: luxury. The Ultima is a hardcore racecar, much like the F40. The Veyron, on the other hand, has Bentley comfort and F1 speed. It's actually faster than an F1 car, as they are geared for acceleration, IIRC.

 

Even if they weren't geared for acceleration but top speed the Bug would probably be right up there with the F1 cars. Honda had the Project 400 last year, where they specially prepped their F1 car to go as fast as possible (no rear wing etc) and it did 413,205km/h. Thats, if I'm not mistaken, just under 6km/h more than the Veyron (407,5km/h). I have no info on the acceleration numbers though.

 

EXACTLY.

 

That Veyron is no joke! It was just pulling away from the bike no problem at all.

 

Uhhh what? What do you base this statement on?

I've owned lots of high HP cars, and I've owned plenty of bikes, including a couple of R1's. I've ridden plenty of 600's. A blanket statement like the one above is just absurd.

Is today magazine-racer-kid-on-the-internet day or something?

 

Id like to see it pull away from a modified Busa or modded ZX-14. If it does that then it will be the more fearsome car ever.

 

I base this on high 400rwhp cars vs bikes, not a drag race from a stop but a 40 punch. Im well aware of what modern bikes run but this also very few people who can get those times out of it. Ive seen many races between the two. By 600 I mean GSXR600, CBR600RR, etc. I also meant 3rd gen Vipers. But what do I know Im just a kid right?

 

no worries nate...kid or not, your statement is correct. don't let them get you down.

 

As I said, such a blanket statement is absurd. "600's" range from an SV650 to an R6. You didn't qualify your statement with "from a roll". Most cars are going to have a hard time beating any 600cc bike in a 1/4 mile run. The bikes are hard to get the best times from, but the cars are almost as hard. It took me many many runs down the 1/4 to get my stock Viper in the mid 11's and it took just as many to get my R1 deep in the 10's.

My company sponsors the Kawi factory drag team and a few years back their top rider was hitting 9's on a 600 - stock. Well-ridden/well-driven is all relative.... I've seen plenty of Vipers run 14's too.

 

gotcha... my bad. I owe you a pint.

dunno. The R1 has pretty brutal accelleration, even from a rolling start. I havent driven/ridden in a Veyron or GT so I cant compare...

but I do know that spun up in the right RPMS, in the right gear, from 40-150mph the R1 is a friggin arm stretcher. I have no hard numbers on times from one MPH to the next, but if there is a street car that can comes close, i'd be VERY interested in riding in it to find out. I've driven a drag car or two that came close to the feel of bikes accell... but thats it.

as far as areodynamics go, just a guess that the motorcycle would have the advantage. MUCH lower frontal area = much less resistance. The cars have higher HP to push through it.

I've only run an R1 up to about 150, thats all I've had room for. The mphs do start coming on a little slower at that speed, not drastically so, but you know you are starting to fight aerodynamics. It still pulls strong, just not as quickly as before.

I've been up over 175mph in 3miles at Bonneville on a bike, 170-175 takes almost as long as 0-170mph.


Who would be faster over all in a straight line? Dunno. Lets line them up and find out. I can bring a 2007 R1

Anyone have a Veyron or GT they'd like to throw into the mix? ?