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Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by Jagbuff, Feb 13, 2007.

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  1. MufflerMan

    MufflerMan Formula 3

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    Well said Brian.
     
  2. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

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  3. GCalo

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    You keep drinking like that and you'll never get that engine together!

    Maybe that's why Rifledriver always has a smile on his face!!!
     
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    I supose you could rent one, it is better if you just know someone. We use them in the power plant for boiler tube inspections. I used it a couple of weeks ago to check for a broken baffle plate in a steam driven chiller.

    As to radius, it depends on the scope, mine could make a 90 in a 1" tube. I have never tried tighter.

    BTW the one I used throught the carb came from the local Nuclear Power Plant.
     
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    Yep- and they sell a Surpace Prep spray to help the bonding.
     
  6. Jagbuff

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  7. Jagbuff

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    Thanks Brian.
     
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    Congrats!! Nice to see a problem solved successfully. I assume you're getting a new gasket for the pan. I usually use Hylomar, but the Permatex Gasket Maker is good stuff too.

    BTW, your name -- Jagbuff -- connotes that you are into Jaguars. I'm an E-type guy myself, have owned several, and have a '70 coupe undergoing a minor restoration right now. Do tell about the Jags in your life.
     
  9. Rifledriver

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  10. Jagbuff

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  11. Jagbuff

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    Yes, I had a long lasting marriage with british cars especially Jags until I hooked up with an italian mistress - just as temperamental but more feisty ;) I still think the XJ13 is the most beautiful racer that never was....
     
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  13. FasterIsBetter

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    I agree. I'd love to get an XKSS replica (since an original is strictly out of the question). It's a shame that Norman Dewis put XJ13 into a wall, I can just imagine what that car might have done in racing circles were it not for that. Anyway, I have not been able to shake my love of the XKE's even though I've added a 308 along side. So these are now my two "keepers" (at least until something more tempting comes along) -- the '70 XKE coupe and the '78 308 GTS.
     
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    I did some work with some Jags for a short while, one was an early series 1 3.8 roadster that I stripped down to a shell. They are truly magnificent machines. I got to drive another series 1 3.8 that was a total restoration. It had hotter cams and pistons with the tripple DCOE setup and a racing clutch. What a Glorious car. I always thought I would like an early XJS.

    I used to have some articles on hotting up the V-12, and recall reading the specs on the motor and was shocked at the tiny valves and low lift cams it had. Shame so many got small blocks that destroyed the cars value. The 12 could really be a hot motor with very little work.
     
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    f355spider F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

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    Ahhhh Europe...I went to our factory in Orleans, France (Maquet SA) in 1999 and they served wine in the cafeteria too! :)
     
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    Hondabond HT (high temp).

    I use to use Threebond, but have since switched to Hondabond. The Honda bond is a bit more tacky and seems to set up a little faster. Either product is good, but I just like the way the Hondabond feels when being applied.
     
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    It is still a silicone and will not last on an oilpan.
     
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    How so?

    I don't mean this in a confrontational way but, if that were the case then why would Honda use it on their cars? We all know that Honda's are very reliable cars, and that they don't generally suffer the oil leak problems that Ferrari's are know for. I used the Hondabond when reassembling my gearbox, and I have no leaks from it, at all, nothing not even one drop, and I'm using Mobile1 sytheic gear oil.

    Could you elaborate more on your reasoning why?
     
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    D'oh!

    That should have read synthetic.
     
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    I must be missing something here, but ..

    Don't oil pick ups have strainers on them just for this sort of case? For example so that a stray nut will not do any damage??

    Why not just leave it in the sump?


    running for cover :)
     
  21. Jagbuff

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    ...well there is something called a crank with rod that rotates at relatively high speeds, and while it is shrouded it probably not good to have loose metal bits around it ;)
     
  22. ham308

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    Would it really be a problem..

    OK in this case the engine was out anyway.

    Putting it another way. What would your local garage do if they dropped a nut down into the sump?

    Can't really see mine taking the sump off.
     
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    Did you know for sure where the nut was? I know those motors pretty well and until the pan came off it was a mystery to me.


    You lose a piece, you find it........Period.
     
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    Honda motors are designed not to leak. The spend a great deal of time in engineering it from the start not to. To say that they don't because of the glue they use is like saying Lance Armstrong won all those tours by eating Wheaties.

    It is a little more involved.

    Ferrari's need all the help they can get.
     
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    How would you know that it is in the sump without either taking it off or stating the engine?! The part could have been wedged in any number of critical areas between the opening and the sump.

    Best case would be an enormous sump rattle from leaving it in and starting the motor...worst case would be no noise at all...from anything...as your engine has fragged.

    Perhaps the better course would be to do as he did...find the dropped part.
     

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