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Discussion in 'British' started by Mike328, Feb 6, 2007.

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  1. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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  2. Kjell

    Kjell Karting

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    #27 Kjell, Feb 7, 2007
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    I love my Alpine. Cheaper than an MGB and built to higher standards.
    I get comments all the time from strangers. It's very easy to work and and
    dependable. It's my daily driver!
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  3. Pantera

    Pantera F1 Rookie

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    Go with a Pontiac Fiero GT.

    You can do a ton of things to them besides replicating another vehicle. Grab a V-8 and drop it in there for some real power and play. There's a ton of suff you could do aftermarketwise to one and also not many people have them anymore let alone modding them.

    Second car I would suggest is the 84-96 Corvettes, they are realitey avaleble, cheap, and the aftermarket possibltlys are endless.
     
  4. Miltonian

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    I was interested to see the Triumph GT6 posted above. Those are neat cars, easy to work on anything in the front when you tilt the entire nose section out of the way, simple design, reasonably easy and inexpensive to get parts, but quite cramped inside and somewhat "crude", shall we say?

    Years ago I had a Triumph Vitesse convertible, totally different body style, but the same GT6 engine.
     
  5. Mike328

    Mike328 F1 Rookie

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    What an awesome thread! This is exactly what I was looking for. I've learned about a lot of cars I didn't even know existed!

    That Fiat x1/9 looks pretty cool! So does the (Sunbeam) Alpine!

    I especially appreciated Terry's post. I like the idea of an old british car; in one sense they're simple but the engineering decisions sound like it can make it painful to work on... not sure that's what I want.

    I agree, an old 911 would resonate with me. I'd like a project one that I could build back up over time. The ones available here locally are not cheap--in the 10k range which is more than I want to pay right now. Part of the fun is putting the time (hobby time) into a rougher one instead of paying a premium for a restored one. Yet economically, I've heard from a number of folks that that's the way to do it (because they guy who restored is probably not getting all of his time/money out of it).

    I'd really like something I could take to a local autocross event or even high performance track day / school. I don't track the 328 (though I did track my old 308).

    BTW, on a side note, I'm not concerned about a cramped cabin--I'm not a tall dude!
     
  6. Bullfighter

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    You're right about the noise, but I think with the O/D gearbox you have to remove the engine to replace the clutch. With the standard gearbox you don't have to.

    OTOH, having lived in Ferrari-land for a while, removing the engine doesn't sound as extreme it as it used to...

    The MGB was my only Brit car, but you really have to like tinkering with it pretty much all the time. Also, as 2NA posted, anything much beyond 65mph gets pretty deafening and knuckle-whitening (the brakes are crap).

    I'd lean toward the old German stuff, just because it runs and you could take it on the track. The drawback is rust, but frankly all these cars are old enough that you'll have to keep a keen eye out for corrosion.

    Fiat seems to have been the worst for corrosion. I remember my '81 X1/9 having major rust bubbles under the windshield and on the rocker panels by 1985. God, but it was a pretty car...
     
  7. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    Pulling the engine is about a 2 hour job and If you drive it as much as I do you'll never have to do it again. The clutch is a pretty durable item, you're not going to burn it up from excess horsepower.

    Better brakes and suspension are some of the upgrades that you can do. There are also things like exhaust, ignition and carburetion stuff available if you like to tinker. If you really want to pump more horsepower out of the little 4-popper there is an aluminum cross-flow head that cleans up the air flow.

    Lots of interior and trim choices including some nice leather kits available.

    I'd avoid a Fiat if you can. The parts are nearly as expensive as Ferrari but the end result isn't quite so satisfying. If you listen carefully, you can hear it rust.
     
  8. TopCloser

    TopCloser Formula Junior

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    The parts really aren't that bad. In fact, I've never had a problem finding the parts I need for a reasonable price. Nor have I had a hard time finding a mechanic. However, I live in SoCal, and this market is probably not representative of parts availability elsewhere.

    As for the rust issue...just make sure it's a California car and you'll be ok. But yes, Fiat did a terrible job of rust-proofing their cars.

    Oh yeah...I only spent $955 on the car as you see it, so I even if parts were expensive, the entry fee is so little that it balances out.
     
  9. Shark49

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    Actually it was quite roomy. The seats were situated that you could stretch out comfortably. It wasnt any more crude than other cars of its era. The leather and wood dash was quite cool too.
     
  10. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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  11. GT Fan

    GT Fan Formula Junior

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    OK, I know a lot of you will call me a *****, but a used Miata provides all the fun of an old British car, with none of the pain. I bought a '97 with 40K miles for $7K.

    EDIT:

    Oh, you're looking for a car to work on, not to drive. A British car will be perfect!

    (Or, for not much money, you can work on a Miata and improve it- I put a supercharger, gauges, shocks and sway bars on my last one.......)
     
  12. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    Actually a Miata has similarities with the old Lotus Elan, for a lot less money.
     
  13. snj5

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    Class, old world class.
    Can get to everything to work on it, good parts availability.
    Fun, fun, fun.
    If you can sneak into a Alfa coupe, grab it.

    Same for a 912 or 912e. Can't go wrong - just check for corrosion. The 78 912e's had galvanized bodies, so that helps.
     
  14. GT Fan

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    I know everybody says that, but I've had both, and they are not alike in any way, other than a vague similarity in styling. Compared to an Elan, a Miata is a Crown Victoria.
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  15. Evolved

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    Enjoy sitting on the frame?
    On the Elan your body is the "Crumple zone".

    Try an old rx7

    They're a hoot.
     
  16. GT Fan

    GT Fan Formula Junior

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    Yeah, you do not want to get hit in an Elan...

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  17. Mike328

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    #42 Mike328, Feb 16, 2007
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    Found a rough Fiat X 1/9 for sale here in Denver. $375, guy would probably take $300 cash.


    Here is the Story. Just got the Car, it was not running and was sitting for about 1yr. Thought I could use it. but changed my mind. not trying to make a profit just want my money back. Call Ron 303-523-6873
    Good
    -Cleaned the Engine a little.
    -Changed the oil Engine Sounds good now
    -Does start but will need a battery. Alternator runs car but battery will not hold
    -Car over heated at first, but now I flushed the system tightened the hoses now add good fluid and now it holds temperature great.
    - Engine does not smoke
    - Removable Top looks good

    Problems:
    -OLD OLD OLD CAR
    -D/S Rear damage (looks like someone was trying to fix it)
    -Does not seem to hold Idle
    -D/S taillight not in but I have it in the trunk.
    -Brakes don't work- ( I think they need bleeding)




    So, what would the experience be like? Does this one even have the "bones" to restore or even get to running / trackable condition?
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  18. bpu699

    bpu699 F1 World Champ
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    Well, you get to practice your body shop skills :).

    Great chance to buy some toys:

    Couple of spray guns, welder, grinder...could be a fun summer :). Might be a fun/cheap track car.

    Or, take it to Maaco, and see what 200$ actually buys you. Of course, thats >50% of the value of the car :).

    Sounds like fun!
     
  19. 2NA

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    Try again, your Ferrari buddies will never stop laughing.
     
  20. Mike328

    Mike328 F1 Rookie

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    Heh, yeah. The local F boys would laugh their asses off, every time we saw each other, for a good two years.

    Wife would kill me.

    Probably best to just to jump on an old 911 or 914 one of these days!
     

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