Need Capristo for new F430

Which wheels are you putting on it?

My 430 Spider just arrived yesterday and I was kicking around the idea of putting Novitecs on it, but I would have to sign a waiver that basically voids the warranty, so I gave up on the idea.

 

Very nice.

From what I understand and have been told, FNA is cracking down on mods bigtime and will do their best to avoid footing the bill if a car has been modified. The only person I would let lower my car is Cauley Ferrari's service manager, so I asked him about it when I was at the dealership yesterday. That's when he said he could do it if I wanted, but I would have to sign a waiver about the warranty. Although it would have been nice to lower it & put those Novitecs on it, I decided that it wasn't worth the gamble.

As for doing it without them knowing about it and putting the OEM wheels back on if something happening, that wouldn't work for me bcz I see several people all of the time that work at the dealership or are affiliated with them. The mods I was considering were only a thought, nothing I was hell bent on, so it wasn't a difficult thing to give up.

 

I think it's always a good idea not to do much to a new vehicle for a few months after delivery so as to preclude warranty fights.

However, let me assure you that any self-respecting lawyer who deals in products liability and warranty breachs would be more than happy to represent you should you encounter warranty denials from Ferrari!

Enjoy the car but give it a few miles to break-in first.

 

I think Fusion Motor Sports can hook you up with both the Capristo (including install) and the lowering! Call Damian at (818) 521-2332 I think you may want to learn more about those Capristo's before you move on 'em.

As for deals...a buddy of mine bought some Capristo straight-pipes and started with just installing the muffler alone; now he realizes the muffler alone is loud enough and I think he's interested in selling the pipes! What's interesting is that they straight-pipes are completely open and have no obstruction....but through the center the pipes is lined with some baffling that is said to redude the drone. PM me if you are interested, I'll give you his phone number...bet he'll sell those pipes for $800 +/-

 

Send a private message to Rob. That's what I did.

 

Rob Lay, the administrator/owner of the forums. Here's a direct link to send him a private message:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/private.php?do=newpm&u=1

 

He probably had his business line forwarded to his cell phone. He's very responsive to messages and can usually be reached.

There have been some problems with the Capristo's for 430's....one was recently installed and only a month later there was some noise coming from inside the muffler itself....a weld had broken. Capristo sent-out another system to replace it, and the new one went bad within a week as well. Also, the 430 system is not the same as the 360 system, it's a different sound. The muffler itself even looks different and is much smaller. From what I understand, the 430 Capristo doesn't come alive until you add aftermarket cats...OR perhaps those test-pipes you made mention of being interested in.....

Call Damian, he can tell you more. I've been very happy with him, he's a straight-shooter. Either way, congrats on the car...I look forward to seeing/hearing it. Let me know if you are interested in those Capristo straight pipes my neighbor has...I don't think he's going to use them.

 

My neighbor bought the straight-pipes used. They aren't exactly straight pieces of pipe....when you look through them, you can see a section of perforation that runs along the inside of the pipe, this supposedly serves to reduce drone/resonance...and issue that plagues many owners who run Capristo's.

My car came with a Capristo stage-3, but being a Euro it has no pre-cats and was quite loud....after a while I had to move to something a bit more mellow (anything is a bit more mellow)....but I must stress: the Capristo on a 360 is NOT the same sound as the Capristo on the 430! Damian did an install of a Capristo on a 430 recently, that's why I referred you to him. Sorry to say, they had a LOT of problems with it. I believe he said it didn't sound so great until they put the High-Flow cats on it....so your plan to run those pipes is probably the right move.

As for my unit, I helped my neighbor install my old stage-3 Capristo in his 360....he's young, single and happy with it. For reasons I can't explain, my car is just louder then others no matter which exhaust I run.

Okay....something else you mentioned that is worth addressing. Do NOT buy the Capristo Twin....you basically already have one! The Twin system uses bypass valves that (when open) allow the exhaust to entirely bypass the muffler section altogether: THIS IS THE EXACT DESIGN OF YOUR STOCK 430 EXHAUST. The only difference would be the bottom-end sound. Not enough difference to justify the cost. Also, IMOCDHO, the top-end is kinda raw and loud like a stock-car...it's not really a tuned/melodic F1 sound....that's because it's not running through a muffler at all. If you're bent on Capristo I'd just get the regular series.

Many would agree that the stock 360 exhaust is rather boring and doesn't do the car justice.....but the 430 system (identical to the Challenge stradale system) is actually very good, many even contend there'd no need to change it. As much as I enjoy mod's, I'm gonna suggest you enjoy your car stock for a while to see how you like it. If you want more sound you can always reach down and disconnect the vacuum lines leading to your bypass valves: now your 430 is loud ALL the time instead of just when you get on it!

Welcome to the world of exhaust system obsession, your exciting and costly journey will take you through all sorts of phases of frustration and ultimate decibel delight, the depths of which know no bounds! With proper dedication, intensity and an obsessive approach that rivals the tenacity of an enraged pit bull, you too might achieve the supreme title of Grand Exhaust OCD Master.....you'll be ridiculed by your friends, honored by a few F-Chat followers and reguarly sited as an authority on the subject...oh the joy!

 

Oh....would you like to meet my friends Mufflerman and RayJohn's?....let me summon their presence by reciting these magical words which we've come to know as both true and dear:

TUBI'S SUCK


(cut to scene from HellRaiser when some innocent person clicks the puzzle-box the certain way) We may even illicit the presence of the wicked yellow 360 of the south, Cig1 himself. how do those words go again..ah yes:

HOW SICK DOES A CAPRISTO STAGE-3 SOUND ON A 360?

 

I've known a couple guys who have taken the stock 430 exhaust and put it on their 360's! The pipes tend to be slightly different in length, but the muffler itself is the same. Also, the CS exhaust is the same part# as the 430's....so I think it's pretty similar as far as mufflers are concerned. That said, perhaps the straight-pipes are the same? You'd have to explore that option. Just trying to help a friend sell them AND help you get into a set for cheap.

I'm sure Damian will call you back soon, I'm surprised he wasn't there when you called him. I'm sure he'll be in touch soon.

 

Tell me more about Capristo vs Tubi vs Fabspeed? 1st Ferrari and learning, was thinking of getting it replaced, maybe its better to get one of those Capristo or? any input helps. (looks like my kid when one of his teeth fall off)
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Will be out of town next week until thurs or Fri, send the info! ask why is this system better than Tubi as some have mentioned.