N.J. gov.'s SUV went 91 mph before crash

What I find so ironic about this is I am going to court on Tuesday for a speeding ticket I got from a trooper. I got clocked at 77 in a 65 and got a speech from the trooper about how dangerous speeding is and that it is going to cost me because it's a 65 MPH zone.

Maybe I should tell the judge that I had on my flashing lights and was speeding to get to a meeting between my neighbor's little league team and an irate parent!!

 

What I hate is the two classes of citizens developing.

Every one of us has to live with traffic and speed limit delays.

If the gov of NJ is a citizen, among equal citizens, he should conduct his affairs without breaking the law.

Any emergency car, speeding for medical care, to defend victims of violence, or to figt a fire is entitled in my opinion to have flashing lights and to speed, the additional danger to citizens is outweighed by the need for speed in such a case.

The justification for the Gov to be speeding and using emergency lights was that he is subject to "threats". The cars may speed and may use lights to avoid becoming boxed in by attackers. The Gov receives many threats.

My queston is: should any amount of danger to ordinary citizens be accepted to preserve the saftyof the Gov.?

Look, thousands of New Jersey citizens are threatened seriously. Many women who enter divorce or end relationsips with their boyfriends are threatened. No one allows such women to so much as have a concealed carry permit in NJ let alone issue them emergency lights to defend against the threat. The Gov has an armed guard, cannot he travel at normal speed?

 

There is a NJ law that states the speed limit laws apply to all.
(I found it reseaching the law books preparing a traffic court defence)

Since they obviously do not apply to state troopers, I think one should be able to make the agrument that they do not apply to you.
If nothing else, you were 14mph SLOWER that the speed travelled by those protecting ourselves from ourselves.

The hipocracy in the law and traffic court really pisses me off.

 

Can you post the excerpt?

 

I would like to oblige, but I don't have any of the traffic law books in my office.
I found in in those encyclopedia like law books, specifically in the one that deals with traffic laws.

If I knew the code # for a typical speeding ticket, running a red light, etc. I'm sure I could find something on line.

 

Now that the Gov is back in the news, (getting out of Hospital), I was thinking about this again.

Is there a way to find out what charges were pressed against the trooper who was driving the SUV? (Speeding, following too close, reckless driving, etc..)

 

Postings on trooper Web site vow state police ticket blitz against the public
Home News Tribune Online 05/2/07
By TOM BALDWIN
GANNETT STATE BUREAU
[email protected]

TRENTON Some state troopers, feeling they have been publicly ridiculed for the accident that almost killed Gov. Jon S. Corzine, appear to be plotting a ticket blitz against the public this month, followed by a slowdown in June, according to a chilling series of anonymous online postings.

And the state's top trooper says he won't tolerate it.

""Great idea,'' wrote a person posting under the name "soundsgood.' ""Absolutely hammer everyone (obviously except cops and family) who does 1 m.p.h. over the limit.,Let's really give them something to complain about.''

""I am all for the May 1st blitz, Better start presigning my summonses,'' wrote
another poster going by the handle of "reckrids.'

""Everyone has to take part in this,'' wrote "20alphabravo.' ""We are taking an absolute beating from the public and media, and the so-called "officers' are doing nothing about it to protect or support us in any way. May 1st. Spread the word. It's go time.''

The comments appeared on a password-protected section of the Web site for the state troopers' union, the State Troopers' Fraternal Association. Union president David Jones issued a lengthy statement, saying it was irresponsible for the media to traffic in the postings.

""Nothing written on that bulletin board, which is anonymous, can be taken as fact or as the opinion of the STFA as a result of the postings of authorized and unauthorized individuals,'' Jones said.

He wrote that the idea troopers would ""engage in a ticket-writing assault and or slowdown on the public is false and without merit.''

But State Police Superintendent Col. Joseph ""Rick'' Fuentes took the postings serious enough to order commanders to try to make sure troopers don't launch the ticket storm. ""He made it clear to the command staff, what is posted there he won't tolerate,'' said Capt. Al Della Fave, spokesman for the patrol.

The comments were first reported publicly by Craig Carton and Ray Rossi, the afternoon ""Jersey Guys'' on New Jersey 101.5 FM radio.

""We must all do this together. Don't let the brass tell us any different,'' wrote
"soundsgood.' ""When they were on the road, they could deal with people the way they needed to be treated, but unfortunately it is a different time.''

""Soundsgood'' went on: ""No matter how junior you are, you must stick it out regardless of threats to be "sent to the pike.' We can't all be sent to the pike, and it's not that bad a gig out there anyway. Crush 'em in May.''

Corzine's trooper-driven sport-utility vehicle was leading a two-car state police caravan at 91 mph with its emergency lights flashing when it crashed on the Garden State Parkway April 12, critically injuring the governor, who was not wearing his seat belt.

Corzine spent 18 days in the hospital and is now rehabilitating at the New Jersey
governor's mansion in Princeton Township.

While Corzine has said State Police helped save his life, the crash has focused attention on the patrol's executive-protection detail. An independent panel is reviewing its procedures; Gannett New Jersey has learned not all members of the unit have received the prescribed enhanced Secret Service training for high-speed driving.

The Web postings suggest the authors want to punish the public in May and then deprive the state in June of revenues from traffic summonses.

""There are many more of "us" than there are of "them,''' wrote "letsroll,' adding, ""The tickets generate a large revenue for the state, and if the slowdown is done properly, we can make a change!''

""It's a union Web site,'' said Della Fave, noting it is a place where troopers vent
frustrations. He said the remarks ""in no way reflect on this organization.''

A writer claiming the monicker "UncommonSense,' advised, ""Just hang out in the right lane doing 70 and pick off the first (expletive) that goes by, shouldn't take long considering our plummeting respect.''

UncommonSense proceeded to say, ""Maybe then our Puppet leaders will address some of the real issues and support us for once, instead of selling us down the river again.''

David Wald, a spokesman for Attorney General Stuart Rabner, who oversees the State Police, said the department views the writings as ""chat among anonymous troopers.''

Tom Baldwin
[email protected]

 

Decided to dig this up when I came upon an article saying:

 

Going 91 mph on the turnpike had nothing to do with it, sure

 

O Rly? I would think that would be something of importance. Then again, the secret service cant re-write the laws of physics....