Update please on Stradale Tyre non-Availabilty????

looks like a permanent problem. a friend of mine at FNA asked pirelli about the availability of corsa tires for the stradale, and he said:

"Currently Pirelli recommend using for the Ferrari Challenge Stradale;
PZero Rosso size 225/35RZ19 front and 285/35ZR19 rear"

penske wynn ferrari in las vegas found a source that has three corsa front tires. they told me they want $500 each. takes all the fun out of it. i'll probably switch to michelin PS2.

 

I was told it was permanent also. I've currently got the PS2's on but would really like to switch back. I was thinking of changing to the 235's but was concerned with developing oversteer. Should I be concerned?

 

i asked the guy i know at FNA about going to a slightly wider (235/35-19) corsa for the fronts, but all he said was that the stradale was not tested with that tire so he could not recommend it.

but some fchat guys in northern california have switched to the 235/35-19 corsa fronts and this is what they told me:

"I had the same dilemma and ended up upgrading to 235's in the front instead. Turn in is still as sharp and it fits on the rim perfectly fine with no rubbing or fender rolling required. The 235's last time I checked was also cheaper than the 225's."

i also specifically asked about any problems with the slightly wider tires rubbing the fenders or anything like that:

"no rubbing and fender hitting at all. Being in the bay area, (BTW, there are hills in socal??? )we do have some pretty steep driveways and my skidplates to get some use occassionally. Overall though, I love the 235's up front. Not a whole lot of noticeable difference. There are couple other guys up here who are running 235's and no do not have issues either. "

 

Just managed to get 4 new tyres, these tyres are awesome on the track

;-)

Cost circa $2200 US hows that compare??
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hi joe,

we can buy pirelli corsa rear tires (285/35-19) for $413 from tirerack.com
but the fronts (225/35-19) are not available. however, i found three corsa front tires at penske wynn ferrari las vegas for $500 each. kind of a rip off to me. the tirerack.com has pirelli corsa 235/35-19 (slightly wider than original) for $299 each. however, the inventory is low and it seems that pirelli may have discontinued making corsa tires. so eventually we'll all have to go with some other tire. pirelli seem to be recommending that stradale owners switch to p zero rosso.

 

When it comes time to replace my CS's tires, I am going to try MPSCs with the following available sizes:
Fronts: 235/35ZR19
Rears: 305/30ZR19

Only concern i have is the tire diameter difference between front and rear tires. If the difference is too large, it could affect ASR and ABS. On the otherhand, I tried MPSCs on my porsche and utterly love them. I wouldn't drive my CS on "normal" street tires. Another concern is the rears rubbing the fenders with the 305 tires. Anyone tried this combination?

F

 

Why are folks so hot on Pirelli's, and why would a size be unavailable or discontinued?

Love the PS2's on my 360.

Has anyone tried the newer PS3's?

 

Why? 1. OEM 2. Try them and you'll understand.

Regarding the availability, only Pirelli knows and they ain't coming forth with the answer. I'll assume there's not much demand in Corsa's 225/35X19.

 

I realize they are OEM but that does not answer the question.

Are they softer? Grip better? Ride better? etc.

 

They are as close to a racing tire as you will get in street legal. They are sticky, the turn in is immediate and is the one area where the difference is marked and noticeable from a "regular" high performance tire.
If you don't track your Strad it's really no big deal, but if you put the car on track these tires make a world of difference and literally can shave seconds off your lap times due to being able to brake and turn in later and accelerate quicker out of a corner.

 

Thank you for the explanation.

I don't track my car but with 19's I am always looking for a slightly softer ride.

 

The Rosso Corsa is an awesome tire in every way except wear rating (which is also what makes it so awesome to begin with). It has a 60 wear rating which means the tires will be useless in a few thousand miles if you drive aggressively.

If people are concerned with the size differences between a 225 and 235 and don't track their cars and don't need all the grip from the Rosso Corsa - there is always a P Zero Nero that is available in a 225/35-19. Wear factor is like 400 or something. It'll last alot longer but it won't grip worth a damn compared to the Rosso Corsa. But for everyday semi-spirited driving - it'll do the job.

 

hi jeffrey,

pirelli doesn't make a tire called "rosso corsa". they make "p zero corsa" and they "p zero rosso". not trying to ding you, but it gets confusing trying to figure all this out when the tires have similar names

btw, i hate to admit this, but i got 9,000 miles out of my last set of p zero corsa tires on each of my stradales. these were all "aggressive" street miles.

 

I concur with all who say the corsas are great on the track. I bought a set of CS wheels/tires for my 360 and now use them for track duty on my 430. The grip is pretty amazing, at least compared to the Pilots.

 

Rick

Was at a trackday recently and noticed that the 430 Challenge cars were using the Pirellis 235/35 -19 Corsa tyres . Are they called P Corsa directional or something similar........ seemed to do a reasonable job on curcuit..


Will contact Pirelli to seek clarification regarding the tyres, I would of thought that they would replace the stickys on the CS for an equally as good Tyre for the 430 LP??

I have Pmed you details regarding tyres here in UK and will confirm next week ;-)

 

corsa systems aren't as good as corsas , i thought pirelli were going to make corsas in 19 inch ? will be interesting to see what tyre ferrari put on the 430 CS ? since it will be track focused . normal p zeros ain't going to cut it . got lousy corsa systems on my 997 GT3 CS last month , not a great option since the car is heavily tracked focused .

 

I'm still betting on the PZero that is on the 599. It's a new design with a tread wear of 60. I wouldn't mind seeing the Pilot Sport Cup that comes on the GT3 and RS either, if they choose to make those sizes it would be a great tire.

Gary

 

the p zero tires for the 599 don't appear to come in sizes for the stradale. not even close.

maybe our best chance is to see what tire they put on the 430LP and hope they make it in sizes for the stradale.

 

Tire shortages like this tend to be transient. Inventory dries-up, FNA and the factory will scream, Pirelli will make another run and the cycle repeats. Availability and tire age are always concerns when the OEM tire was designed for very few cars. Did any other new car use the CS tires OEM; I can't think of any?

 

Do you really think that's a big problem? Tire companies add sizes all the time, and the 430LP seems like a good candidate for that tire, as well as the CS.

Gary

 

if you've ever driven a stradale as hard as you can on corsa tires you'd understand why it's a big problem not being able to get them any more.

 

Greg,

the corsa systems are R Compounds. Only equivalent tire is the Pilot Sport Cups.

BTW, I'm the Norcal guy with 235's Corsa's up front.

 

Rick,

sometimes tirerack does not list all the available sizes on website. On a few occasions, I called the number directly and found the tire in an unlisted size for me. Just a thought.