Koenig draw thru turbo feedback needed

If you believe you can make it work then DO IT

 

personally I'd rather blow thru the carb than draw thru. drawing thru puts a gas/air mixture into the turbo which can shorten the life of the seals, newer turbos may not have that problem. then you have the issue of fuel pooling or not getting where it needs to.

maybe some more research into the original system and how it ran new?

 

Is that bottom picture your car?? If so, could you please post more?
It looks awesome!!!

 

Thanks.

 

Why don't you just ask Willy:

http://www.koenig-specials.com/

 

Hmmmmmm.

You know, just a heads up, but several of these cars have snapped off rear stub axles by running too wide of tires and or spacers. Looks mean though.

Whats with the black lips around the wheels, looks boy racerish, along with the ground effect, uhmmm, er, stuff along the doors.

If you know how carbs work, and know how to drive them, that part of your setup shouldnt pose to big a problem. If you dont, I wouldnt risk it. Just dont let it go LEAN.

Depending of how they mount the turbo, if its down to low it cant drain oil into the sump correctly and youll wreck it. If its down low, you need an auxillary oil pump to drain the oil off into the sump.

If it goes lean under power with boost, youll fry your pistons. It can happen so fast you probably couldnt finish reading this thread before you wipe out the motor. There was a guy on here about a year ago that bought a 308 with a simular system as you have, he burned his pistons. Havnt seen him around since last summer.

I wouldnt even think of putting that thing on my motor until I had new timing belts and tensioners, accurately degreed valve timing, check valve clearances, machine test and sync distributors, basically a full engine service. And seeing how Russ has shown the advantages and precision of using an LM-1, I wouldnt think of doing this without one. A cockpit A/F meter might not be a bad idea either.

I seen that system on eBay last year and was thinking of bidding on it, but I was just about crazy enough to try it.

 

It'll probably work fine. PLenty of 308s ran these back in the day, right? Put a blow off valve on there so you don't have too much boost and go for it.

Put an A/F meter in there to make sure the car doesn't run too lean. Now you know you won't hurt the engine. If the turbo dies from fuel in the mixture, oh well, you only wasted $400.

Birdman

 

problem solved, run this in place of the carbs and add electronic ignition.
http://www.twminduction.com/ThrottleBody/ThrottleBody3004-FR.html
price, but it would be the old Koenig look with modern adaptation. I'd go this route.

 

What size tires are you running?

 

I dont know your budget, but the stock points distributors will work fine if you have them calibrated on a distributor machine. The good thing is that as the points wear they should slowly retard timing IIRC, so they wont hurt your motor. I mean, if your going to keep those billet deck lid hinges and those fender flares, in keeping with the "Koenig" package, keep the stock distributors too. I kinda like that hood by the way.

I think its a unique car, and one that will eventually be recognised as something special. There are many 308's out there and everyone of them is either stock, or modified. Stock gets kudos, obviously, modified gets a thumbs down. But a Koenig car is in that "tuner" category, a "special", and while some may not like what he did, there is nothing else like one. I would almost categorise it with the Micheletto cars, though this will never be worth more than a stock 308 for probably some time yet. But I would bet that 10 or 15 years from now that car could command a good price. I would keep it the way it is and not let anyone talk me into changing it back. Including the seats if they were in fact part of the "package". Looks like the turbo kit found its way to the right car IMHO. No smoking hot ignitions, no throttle body or Haltech injection stuff, just run it like ya found it.

 

I second this, what size are those monsters? And tell us more about the car, how much is Koenig, etc.

 

I bid just as a lark, figuring that many of the key items did not seem to be in the auction, like whatever plumbing for oil it took to avoid the turbo/compressor bearing frying itself sooner rather than later.

Will be interested in how the experiment turns out. I've only found one picture of the Koenig turbo installation in an old, circa 1983, magazine. Must not have been very common.

Bonnieboy

 

How does she handle with those tires? How long have you had the car? I like it. What other engine mods have you done? What kind of exhaust do you have, and do you have any sound clips? Sorry for the 20 questions.

Jim

 

Fronts too???