cayman s or 360???????

Don't think its a fair comparison with the 360, a 328 would be more in the price range of a Cayman once they level off in demand, the power is more similar between the 2 as well. The Cayman is a cute car though the 360 on another level power wise and performance and looks

 

"Porsche. There is no substitute." Bull! It's spelled F-E-R-R-A-R-I. That's an attitude and a lifestyle.

 

I don't think a 328 would be in the same performance category as a Cayman S. You guys sure do like your F-cars. lol

I am guessing that a Cayman S (on a track) would run pretty well with a 355.

 

I think the 328 and Cayman S might be closer in performance than you think.
Specifications are very similar, especially when the lower curb weight of the 328 is factored in.

Spec ....... 328 ......... Cayman S
---------- ----------- ----------
Engine ..... 3.2 liters..... 3.4 liters
Cyls ........ 8 .............. 6
Hp .......... 270 hp ...... 295 hp
Torque .... 231 ft lb .... 251 ft lb
Curb Wt .. 2807 lbs ..... 2954 lbs
Trans ...... 5 spd ........ 6 spd

.

 

Just because the protectionist economic policies of the Australian Government create a price for the Cayman that is similar to a used 360 Ferrari does not, in any manner, way, shape or form create any other kind of equality between them.

You are in the fortunate position of having had someone else take the major hit on the value of the Ferrari that reflects the absurbity of protectionist duties levied on import cars. Jump on the opportunity to buy a Ferrari that has already taken the bulk of the value hit. Buying the Cayman will make you the schmuck taking the hit when some fortunate soul buys the heavily devalued Cayman from you in the future.

As to the relative comparison between the two - you can't really be serious, can you? If you can't see why the Ferrrari is in a different league, you probably deserve to be in a Cayman, IMVHO.

 

Is this really a question???? Atleast here in the states the Cayman is not going to hold its value over a period of time, lots of depreciation. The 360 will retain more of the value although it is several years older. Still can't believe this was even up for debate. Ferrari always Ferrari. Best of Luck

 

Are we talking drag racing here? Are we ignoring chassis rigidity, suspension improvements, brakes, cooling, etc, etc?

No 328 is hanging with a Cayman S on anything which involves turns. The Cayman S turns in very respectable N-Ring times. I would need to look them up, but it runs with some pretty big dogs, if I recall.

 

8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06),

8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)

8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)

7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)

Full list http://www.*************/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&bottom=0

 

But it's still a strange question. It's like asking "what sould I get? A Corvette or Hyundai?"

They're just completely different cars in every aspect.

I could see asking between say a Ferrari and Lamborghini or Lotus Esprit or...??

It kind of reminds me of where I've seen on forums guys "replacing" an SUV with a sportscar or vice versa. Now THOSE guys I do "get" as they're just trying to impress people with "the latest fad" but it's still strange to compare say, a Jeep YJ and a Miata. I've seen this too. I read that and go "huh?".

I like Porsches too and like the Cayman a LOT more than the Boxster but that's because I don't like open cars as a rule and the Boxster isn't a car I'd exactly even notice over a Camry in traffic. Truth is, no offence but I don't really "notice" ANY Porsche as they're pretty much "just another Porsche" and unless it's an early Turbo I really don't notice.

The Porsche is the car you take to the corner store when you aren't on the mood to answer questions about the Ferrari. LOL.

The 360 is the car you walk out to your driveway/garage and take one look and your face breaks into a big grin.

Now myself, having said this, I'D take the Cayman but again, PERSONAL PREFERENCE as I'm not a fan of the 360. More an F355/348/328 and Testarossa fan. But that's just it. It's whatever you have a preference for.

I do truly hope though that whatever decision you make that you are VERY happy. I wish it were a decision I had to make. HAHA. Have fun.

Oh, and most importantly.

WELCOME TO FERRARICHAT!!

 

Even if it is not the best idea to choose a car while one can be rediculed by others its a fact that owners of Boxsters and Caymans often are labeled as the ones that couldn't afford the 911. Even as a fan of both brands (and owning one of each) I would say take the 360 as it is the greater bargain for the money.

 

Hmmm, well that certainly puts paid to my supposition, doesn't it. lol Maybe it was a tighter track somewhere...? I will have to investigate further.

 

For the simple reason you are trying to decide between a 360 and a Cayman says you should get the Cayman. Obviously, you haven't cultured your appreciation for a Ferrari to deserve one

The Cayman is a great car that can give someone a few years of high end, trouble free sports car experience

G

 

Porsche VS Ferrari.

Not trying to stir anything here but as far as car reliability goes, doesnt Porsche make a better built car? Ive read so many reviews where Ferraris need to rebuilt their engines after as little as 20,000 KMs?

I mean for glamour factor Id choose a 360 over Cayman but can anyone answer the above?

 

you may be talking about replacing the timing belts. i don't think many people have had to rebuild a ferrari engine after only 20k kms. still, not an inexpensive thing. the 360 on the other hand shouldn't need that much maintenance.

 

Many joke that when you buy a Ferrari for 300 K have another 300 K for maintenance... I mean for a hand built car youd expect it to pretty much be bullet proof.

Its also interesting seeing as the most reliable car maker in the world is... Toyota! Their sports cars are basically bulletproof. 14 yo Supras are still going strong and beating most super cars with some mods.

i drive a Skyline myself so Im not biased here but yeah, if I was in a comfortable position to buy a Ferrari Id probably consider other optiosn such as Lambos (only heard great things about them).

 

Good point. And then there are those of us who prefer the Cayman over the 911.

 

Hand-built is the antithesis of reliable. That is why, as you say, Toyota or Honda are reliable.

Hand-built means humans, humans mean variability, and variability means flaws.

You get a human work of art when it is hand built; but you do not get reliable.

It always surprises me how many people mis-takenly equate "hand-built" cars with quality.

 

Good points.

 

That is TOTAL BS mate!
The Ferrari 360 is the most reliable Ferraris going at the moment.
Dont listen to those tools and step into a 360 mate. Trust me, you wont regret it. The money you will lose on a new Cayman S is not worth it. The 360 is much more exciting to drive and will get you more attention, adulation and respect on the street than a Cayman S ever would!!!
Everyone loves Ferraris!! I have only had a fantastic experience since I have owned my 348 in the last 2 years! Ferraris really are an experience that everyone should enjoy at least once in their life. You are lucky to be in the position to be able to buy a 360 Anthony. GO FOR IT!

P.S-Can I get an autograph please?

 

While thats true its the fault of the owners who DON'T drive their cars while some parts expire of time and none usage. Mine was driven less than 1000km a year by the previous owner. What a waste.

 

Repairs on 2003 Boxster S (all covered under warranty):

19k miles so far on the car. Bot it new.

A bolt broke at 8k miles which holds the belt assembly. Car had to be trailered 150 miles. My wife had to come get me. Not pleased.

Catalytic converter 15k miles.

Car made a whining noise at 3k+ RPMs. Replaced an assembley in the gasoline filler tube.

Since that last repair the car makes a rattling noise at 65+ that I can only hear with the top up. They tightened the heat shield around the catalytic converter, but I can still hear the noise. Solution: Drive with the top down or play the stereo real loud.

I have had no trouble with the 360 so far. I have had it a year.

So I don't think Porsches are so reliable having been stranded once 150 miles from home. Never lost a catalytic converter on any other car before. The chronic rattling noise bugs me.

The sound of the Ferrari thrills me.

IMHO Porsche reliability is a myth.

 

Interesting posts. I think the 328/Cayman comparison is valid, although 2007 brakes, wheels and tires are going to kill 1987 brakes, wheels and tires just due to technology.

You've got the weight wrong on the 328, though. I believe it's over 3000 lbs.

In terms of value, the 328s and Caymans are at opposite ends of the depreciation scale, as someone mentioned above.

Sorry Adrift, I think he's got it right. But that's not a slap at the Cayman. The 328 was one of the fastest and most expensive cars in the world 20 years ago. The Cayman is the mid/lower-end Porsche today, so the fact that the S version is being compared to the 328 isn't bizarre or bad.

 

That is the first "stranded in a Boxster" story I have heard, and I have been around a LOT of boxster owners and bulletin boards.

Now there are plenty of RMS stories, and this and that fails for sure, but "stranded" stories are rare to the point of non-existant (at least in my experience). And this includes a lot of people that track theirs...hard.

I will have to research the Cayman S lap times on the net some (although my time is near nil for such things). I think the 20'ish years of automotive improvements are being discounted. The Cayman is just a few HP from humbling the 911, so I think you guys are selling it short. Speculation on my part, but if anyone wants to pony up one of each, I volunteer to drive. (PLEASE note this is not an attempt to revive the P v F fiasco from the Other Topics thread - lol)

 

Hmmm, going to the actual page where the previously cited data resides yields the following bit of clarification:

8:11* -- 151,274 km/h -- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)

which is a mere 2 seconds behind the fastest recorded 360 (non-CS) time:

8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)

and handily outpaces the 355:

8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)

Ahem. It seems the poster missed this tidbit. But then it is the god-like Roehrl behind the wheel.

Now, please continue disparaging the "mere" Cayman S. Put an LSD on that puppy and open a BIG OLE can of whoop-a$$. If only.

PS For those that live for the details, Excellence recently weighed a Cayman S with half a tank of gas (no driver) and came up with about 3150 pounds. Oink oink.