What are a genuine set of P6 cams worth ?
I dont know. I have a set myself and have imagined what thier worth, its hard to say. The early carb cams are highley prized, and some scoop up sets for pretty reasonable prices, seem priced anywhere from $1500 a set to $1500 per cam. Guess depends on who has them and who wants them, lol. But P6 ones are scarce, and while some have gotten regrinds from weldups, factory original cams in good condition have to be worth an added premium IMHO. Personally mine arent for sale. If I install them I will likely swap them out before I ever sold the car. But if I had a spare set for sale I would want the equivalent of the cost of new blanks plus the shop charge for the grind. $6K? Thats about what it would cost to replace them.
LOL, good luck finding a buyer or should I say sucker. I wouldnt pay a premium for an old set of cams even if enzo kept them under his pillow since $1340US gets me whatever profile I desire for a set of four (which would out perform a P6 grind). If they were for a daytona where the value of the car was great, $5K for cams would make sense.
"$1340US gets me whatever profile I desire for a set of four" From where? I thought when Russ was looking to do his Mondial cams, the blanks alone were some $500 each, then he still had to pay to have them ground??? Russ? If a brand new set of custom ground cams can be had for $1340, I would bet there are a lot of late model carb 308 owners who would like a set.
WEB, thats for a 2V which is the topic of this thread. More lobes means more money as its priced per lobe. They offer performance street grinds or race or custom. $1340 for a 2V 308 set of cams. I bet if I asked nicely they would put a P6 part number on it too so I felt good. They weld and regrind your stock cams so the choices are endless.
Well then thats not $1340 for new cams, thats $1340 for your supplied cams reground. Not really the same thing.
So I guess in YOUR opinion, the mans cams are worth nothing but the cost of the grinding? Im sorry, your correct. Sir, your cams are worth nothing, send them out to be welded up and reground, at which point they will be worth about $1300. Maybe Newman here will sell you a set of his for $1300 after he pays to have them reground, he might even include shipping. The blanks are obviously free of charge.
We still have yet to answer the initial question. What are they worth? Considering blanks will cost around $400 each (at least), and a grind for those blanks would be another $1300, that puts them at $2900. My opinion is that even though they are original, it is not going to effect the price much. Unless of course the person purchasing them will be able to sleep better at night knowing they were made at the factory, which if anything means they will be worse by today's high-tech cam grinding standards. The 308 not beng a super high-dollar maket nowadays is not going to support a $3k asking price per set. I think $2k a set might even be pushing it. I believe many 308 enthusiasts (myself included) would not have a problem regrinding their current cams is the issue.
Didn't mean to cause chaos .The cams came from two Lemans kits I have two sets of cams and one set of 9.7:1 forged pistons as supplied by the factory . everything has done a maximum of 5000km.One set of cams I will keep, the rest is up for sale at a reasonable offer.
lol, chaos has arrived. If I would need a set of cams and wanted the original spec, 2k was top price for me cause the aftermarket has some serious alternatives with nice bolt-on stuff that leaves you with better timing and longer change intervals. According to originality (whatever that means) I never met someone who looked dissapointed because he discovered that his new Ferrari had better performance.
I think the most value comes from the 'factory LeMans kit' from historical value - especially if you have accompanying documentation. I would definitely keep the kit together and NOT split up the pieces if it were me, and advertise it as a factory set, if that is what it is - as documented by some reference. Good luck!
All I am saying is to compare apples to apples. If a grind is $1300, plus new blanks, or using your cores, then you have to add that value to the price of grinding. No one in thier right mind is going to buy a set of blanks, then pay $1300 to have them ground and turn around and sell them for only the cost of grinding. So maybe $2900 is more realistic? Maybe. Now if these new blanks are as good or better than original Ferrari cams, I would be the first to concede. But are they better? Are they made of as good of steel? Are the surfaces as hard? These are realistic questions I would like to know the answers to if we are supposed to accept these as comparable. Whos making them? Who says they are as good? I know Ferrari had some cams break in the Dino's, and IIRC from what I read, Ferrari stood behind theyre stuff and made good on it, including replacing heads and complete motors. These guys making cam blanks, they going to replace any big motor parts if thier cam snaps in half? Anyway, things change, and I sure wasnt looking for an argument. I just like to see everyone being fair and treating people fair. I was looking for a set of early carb cams a while back and the couple places I found who had a set available wanted around $3500. Well, maybe they wanted to much, I dont know. But when you need something and suddenly everyone wants gold for thiers, it kind of irritates you when these same people tell you your stuff aint worth anything. The tail lights are a good example that comes to mind right now. Sure as God made green apples if I sold a set of my cams for $1500, I would play hell ever replacing them for that.
