what are you guys using for Daytona tires these days?
Real Michelin XVX 215/70 VR15. They were making them 5 years ago. I heard that they still are. The tread has a nice period correct look and I have no complaints on street or for occassional track use.
215/70 XWX's look the best. If you are running 7.5" rims all around, Pirelli P4000's are an ok and much cheaper choice. I have them on my 2+2 and they work fine. They don't look nearly as good as the XWX's, though. If you are running with 9" rears, XWX from Coker - 215/70 in the front and 225/70 in the back - is pretty much your choice. I did get a discount via Fchat, but that was a yearly sale thing. I didn't think they did this all year round, but maybe things have changed? -steve
Michelin XWX 215/70 VR 15 on the 7.5 or 8 inch rims. 225/70 x 15 for the 9 inch rims. If you want better driving tires, I like the 235/60 x 15 Pirelli P600. I tried the 215/70 x 15 P4000, but I didn't like them much. Steve
Anyone have suggestions for something in a modern rubber compound? The XWX's may look good but a 225 on a 9" rim is far too narrow and 1970s tire tech isn't my idea of fun nor safe. I would prefer to run 225/60 front and 245/60 rear but have not found any speed rated performance tires in these sizes. My Yokohama AVS tires which have been fantastic are about shot and no longer made. I may buy Avon vintage race tires if nothing else is to be found. Terry
The Pirelli P600 235/60 R15 tyre I mentioned above is a ZR rated tire. It's my current favorite. My favorite tyre was the Yokohama AV1-60i 236/60 R 15 tires. But, as you mentioned, they are no longer made. Coker does not make the Michelin XWX tyres. Michelin makes them. Steve
Hey guys, I work at Coker, and am the one that has been giving the FChat discount. Michelin does still produce these with the original molds, but they do use modern rubber compounds. Let me know if you guys have any questions. The FChat price on the 215/70VR15 $380.92, and the 225/70VR15 $382.70. Jerry
Jerry, What can you offer in larger sizes? Say a 245/60R15 for the rear ? (or 55 series...) I would also consdier a 255 but the 245 is really perfect for the 9" rear wheels. The 235 works but is small and 225 just doesnt look right at all. Terry
Terry, I carry the 235/70HR15 Michelin XAS is the biggest I have got. Unfortunately right now I don't have anything in a 60 series.
There seems to be Dunlop Racing (left) and Michelin TB5 (right) tires that would fit the profiles you need, are street legal and look very cool. Have you seen these: Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Terry, the XWX was designed for the Daytona, I used them on my Daytona and they drive great! The suspension is really designed around those tires, I would not reccomend any other tire. Modern tires look silly on a Daytona or a Dino, I run XWX's on both and Coker is great to work with. Chris
Back around 1980 I ran 60 series Pirelli CN36s on a Daytona. They were slightly wider, I believe 235s on the front and 265s on the rear. It looked so much better than the XWXs but there was one BIG problem: The suspension geometry is set up for for that specific XWX size. The car handled very poorly and we eventually put the XWXs back on. So unless you're going to change the suspension geometry I would not recommend a different size tire.
I have been running 60 series Yokohama AVS tires since I got my Daytona. They look great and the car handles great. When the Daytona was raced, they did not run XWX tires on them. Besides, there are no XWX's in the sizes I need. A 235/70 on 9" rear wheels is just too narrow. As soon as my RSR racecar is finally back together so I can tackle a new project I am planning to totally rebuild my Daytonas suspension. I have a set of Roelofs racing springs/shocks/struts with adjustable shocks and dual springs for a more progressive spring rate that I am planning to install. These are said to do wonders for the cars feel and handling and they are bolt on parts easily swapped with the stock units. I also got a larger diameter front anti-roll bar from Roelofs that I will install at the same time. I want modern rubber that looks period correct. Yale: where did you find those Dunlop and Michelin tires and what sizes do they come in? Terry
This place will ship them anywhere in the world free except North America, humpf: http://www.borrani.co.uk/Special_Tyre_Offer.php Alternative SizingDiameter (mm)Section Width (mm)GB Pounds Select currency using menu. 15/60-15 Michelin TB15 Tyre170/65VR15600176£170.00View ImageBuy now 18/60-15 Michelin TB15 Tyre215/55VR15614228£192.00View ImageBuy now 23/62-15 Michelin TB15 Tyre270/45VR15626267£224.00View ImageBuy now 26/61-15 Michelin TB15 Tyre295/40VR15615288£224.00View ImageBuy now 29/61-15 Michelin TB15 Tyre335/35VR15620330£246.50View ImageBuy now 15/60-15 Michelin TB5 Tyre170/65VR15600176£170.00View ImageBuy now 18/60-15 Michelin TB5 Tyre215/55VR15614228£192.00View ImageBuy now 23/62-15 Michelin TB5 Tyre270/45VR15626267£224.00View ImageBuy now 26/61-15 Michelin TB5 Tyre295/40VR15615288£224.00View ImageBuy now 29/61-15 Michelin TB5 Tyre335/35VR15620330 Best, Yale
Thanks. It would appear you can either have a 215 width or a 270 with nothing in between. Too narrow for the front... too wide for the rear. Foiled again! Terry
While there is a general claim that 9-inch rears could be ordered in-period, I've gotten multiple shirts dirty checking the rears of various Daytonas, and never found 9-inchers that were not of "Boxer" vintage. Also, 9-inchers don't seem to be listed in the parts manual. As evidenced by the competition cars, Campagnolo wheels of that size were available in period, but in the case of that manufacture, I've never seen a standard 7.5-sized wheel. So net-net, I personally am a little unconvinced that "staggers" like this ever came from the factory. Though it does seem likely to me that some dealers might have mounted Boxer wheels on "long unsold" Daytonas that were in their show rooms. But you have to keep in mind that I am not some "old hand" that has been following these cars (in this sort of detail) for their entire life, so if you should trust the opinions of those sort of folks if any of them chime in. That said, I run a pair of 9-inchers (if I recall right, they are of 75 vintage) on my car, because I want a little extra insurance that the rear of the car won't get away from me. If like me you just want the characteristics regardless of absolute originality, Eurospares seems to think they have a set...
365 GTB/4s in standard road specification never came from the factory with 9" rear wheels and are incorrect, although I have seen a few Red Book Classiche certified with them and if so there should be a qualification in the book. Or perhaps owners get them Classiche inspected with the correct 7.5" wide rear wheels they were supplied with when new and then re-fit the 9" wide rear wheels. There should be pictures of the wheels detailed in the Red book. The correct wheels were 15" x 7.5" all around. Owners of 365 GTB/4 started putting 9" wide 512 BB Cromodora rear wheels on 365 GTB/4s after the 512 BB was launched with them on the rear in 1976. You see many 365 GTB/4s with replica 9" rear wheels now made by neither Cromodora or Campagnolo.
If you’re looking for OEM Cromodoras, any number of independent suppliers for used Ferrari parts around the globe should be able to help you find a pair and/or they do periodically pop-up for sale on eBay & similar online sales platforms (bring a trailer, etc), but you may have to use a variety of different search word combinations to find all listings. If buying used ones, make sure to have them checked for stress cracks or other damage potentially hiding under any “fresh” re-paint, etc. And then there are new aftermarket/replica wheels available from numerous sources, but they appear to have several detail differences, including but limited to some not having “Cromodora” or “Ferrari”, etc written on the or the location & size of valve stem holes might be different, etc.
