Do you buy just the name?

what do you guys think?

Hey Student - why are you not studying?

 

I have heard pundits say that Ferrari is the most valuable brand name in the world.

It's at least one of the top brand names.

They never advertise. Never. F1 is an "ad" but it is racing, it's the reason Enzo made the company...to go racing.

 

Off course you are buying a name. Power wise Ferraris are not all that. There are many other cars that make Ferraris look like over priced junk

I can buy a much cheaper car, spend a rather small amount of money modding it for power, beat most (if not all) Ferraris and still have enough $ for a small house in my pocket.

Also you just made you comments and view pointless with the "I have a ferrari" comment.

 

I've heard this comment a lot. But there's something missing from the raw "peak power" ratings.

On paper, my EVO8 should blow the doors off the 328. For that matter, my Celica AllTrac should have demolished the Alfa Spider. But I noticed that I'd get to work ten minutes quicker in the Alfa.

The driving experience just doesn't compare. I love the flat torque and response of Italian mills. I have a lot more confidence in corners in the Ferrari than in the EVO. (Unless we're talking six inches of snow on the road. )

 

I think most NEW Ferrari's are bought for status. I don`t run around and tell people I own a Ferrari. I bought it for my enjoyment, not to empress anyone. Although I`m sure it does. When people see it ( like it or not ), they know what it is. I would say that the Ferrari name RULES THE ROAD.

 

ok so u think as a learning ferrari kid that i shouldent ask questions? i should sit back in the dark? im trying to learn about cars and this is one of the many questions i had about the cars.. u cant say that to me. im sure when u were just getting into cars u had the same dumb questions as me. k? so id rather u not talk to me like that =/

 

Your question is not about cars ... it's more about people

and yes ... he can say that to you ... if you have a really big problem with that, you should keep your questions off the internet

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calm down guys... here it's a place where we all share a great passion... here we spend some of our rare spare time enjoying what we love most.... FERRARI.

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um actually the question is about cars. it involves buying the car and what u buy it for. so um yeah its about cars k? and no he doesnt he has no right. for one im still lost as to why your even getting involved in this.. it aint any of your business. and 2 if u wernt so rude to others u might have more ppl on here sharing the same passion but no when they ask a simple question u get all pissy and push them away. i guarentee if u didnt know all that u do now and u were in my position u would say the same thing and act the same way. maybe think about that before opening ur mouth? respect other people and maybe ull get some respect yourself.

im not going to keep going with this. honistly i think i can learn more off the forum and save myself the troble and stay away. guess ill stick to car shows and family to learn about cars.

 

OK ... I'll keep it short and sweet ..... STFU

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Good point.

 

I'm sorry, but are you trying to communicate with us? Yes, I know spelling flames are usually considered unsportsmanlike behaviour, but you were the one who started mumbling about respect.

In the English language, punctuation and spelling are not optional. This particularly applies to the written form.

If you put some effort into your question, I'll put effort into the answer.

 

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For Ferrari, I assume more than half buys for "Bragging rights". Doesn't everyone agree?

Of course I have always loved the design, feeling, smell and all about Ferrari, but once when I had enough money to buy one, I could have bought some AMG or Porsche, or whatever, but Ferrari "sounded" really good to my head.(as it normally does to anyone)

As anyone who owns a Ferrari here knows, they are not the most reliable cars in the world nor the best performing cars in the world(road version cars), but the respect, feeling, and pleasure of "owning, or being able to own" a Ferrari is not the same kind of feeling you get from other cars.

I am still young, and have not owned too many cars but other cars didn't give me same feeling.

I am not sure what it is. Is it the looks? Respect? or being able to say "I drive a Ferrari"? I don't know.. (I actually don't like saying that out loud to people because people automatically assume you are rich)

It shows some level of succes. gha.. I don't know. I am confused now.

Driving feel of Ferraris are something else, though. Good chassis. Great sounding engine, good suspension. Great interior, and smell inside.

mmm. What else? everyone? Ferrari really would be so much better if they had better reliability, I really believe more people would respect the name if they did. As reliability is a big part of racing.

anyway.. sorry for a loong ass post

 

see now i if i got a response like that it wouldent have got to this, but u all insisted i was an idiot for asking such a question. to cig. ur a jerk. short and sweet, from what u said i cant imagine that u know any more then me about cars so u got no room to talk.

tillman: who are u? right now ur the one who doesnt make sence. obvisually if u can respond to me u know what im talking about and if u can flame me u really know what im talking about. think about that before u post something stupid.

 

wen u posted this noone was critizing u 4 anything...

No, what he said is that when you ask a question like that on FChat you won't get anyone saying "Yes! I bought my car for the name only!" It wasn't a slap at you. Just questioning what kind of answer you were looking for.

+1, it is definitely more psychological than automotive. As someone who studied psychology (undergraduate degree in it, anyway), I think the question is interesting, but the way you asked it seems likely to elicit the usual stream of replies that we've seen on this site hundreds of times.

And FWIW, I have to agree with Tillman! that your post took some effort to read. It doesn't seem like a big deal, because it's the Internet, but it makes the wrong initial impression.

 

well i guess i figured that anyone who saw the post title would have known what im talking about because some time or another someone has mentioned that u buy the car for the name and i was just cerious. i never ment for it to mean anything other then that, i expected a calm response like.

"no man i didnt, i love my car".

or

"yeah i bought it to say i have a ferrari cause i love it"

i didnt expect to get responses like.. ur question is stupid get outta here, and guess i have alot to learn. i just dont appricate it when i try to learn and get shot down. not a big inspiration.

 

Marketing and branding. Also certain things become more than a name, an iconoclast if you will.

Some people buy **** cars and overlook their shortcomings because they are 'brand drunk'. I'll be honest, BMW makes some CR@PPY cars, as do MBZ, Land Rover, Bentley (Conti GT is total ****) and other luxury or exotic marques. BUT people like to name drop. Poserville

 

see i have to disagree with you. i love bmw and all their cars. they are all beautiful. this may be because it was the first car i was really introduced to but i am lost as to which cars bmw makes that are "****"?

 

"Do you buy just the name?"

Goodness, that has a hollow ring to it! I suppose there is such a thing as someone who is SO determined to make a "statement" with his car that he would buy a Ferrari just for the name, but I think such a person would be far from the norm, and would never be happy with it. And behind his back, people would probably laugh at him rather than admiring him or being jealous of him.

"Name Factor" may be part of the equation, but "just the name"? That's strictly vanity. I don't think you'll find many FChatters who fit into that catagory.

Next time you're in Milton come on over and I'll give you a ride in my 348, like I did for Matt.

 

well, personal experience mainly. bmw of the 80's and 90's were technologically advanced, but from the mid 90's on, they cranked out cars that lacked the appeal and luster, but promised a lot more. from ergonomics to electronics systems, and even ride quality have suffered. gone are the stiff suspensions and smooth gearboxes, in with amenities and slushy ride quality. the recent m coupe which promised to be a track day warrior, turned out to be lower than a miata at twice its price. the z series in general has been a dilluting of the brand to make cheap econo cars for people drunk on the brand. like the c class benzos that when they intro'd some cars in 99, they did not all have tilt streering wheels.

my recent experience with the 7 series, was mostly a "check out all these buttons" moment. they figure of you are comfy, you'll not notice it is less of an autobahn cruiser than the previous 7's were. pretty much everyone now uses chromed plastic even on their high end cars, that is pretty gross.

I had an m6 for three weeks and blew a seal on the fuel system. I was on the freeway and the car filled with gasoline fumes.

you'll have to forgive me though, over the last 15 years or so, cars have become less about cars and more about status buying, at least from the manufacturers' perspectives. remember the acronyms for bmw? from 'black mans wish' to 'boring middleclass wanker'. anybody can buy a bmw now, they are almost as cheap and common as hindas. well, they hype cars up, make cheap entry-level models and pretend their **** don't stink.

I like older cars. exempli gratia, the no bs rover defenders, my p1800, metalcars, cars that were not built from a marketing perspective to fit a niche (3 sizes of suvs for example...), cars that were just built.

i think one of our own fchatters said it best one day. a kid was looking at his car and said "when my brother hooks up his nos on his wrx he'll totally beat your car" his response "you're probably right, but I drive a Ferrari..." you can read in to that many ways.

 

Buddy of mine in LA knows a guy who rents Ferrari's. Does a brisk business for the "MTV Cribs" types... gonna be on MTV? Gotta have the Ferrari in the garage - whether you own or rent. Image is huge for some.

Some people buy big diamonds... why? They like 'em (well, guys assume it's gonna get them some...). Cant image the enjoyment you could get from the diamond itself, but whatever.

I drove my 308 today for the first time in weeks, top off... (I know, shame on me!). Not the fastest, not the cleanest, not the best example of a 308... but she is mine. Feels great. Sounds great. I love looking at my little horse on the steering wheel.... Did I do it to be seen? No. Drive one... maybe you well get it. But beware, you will be bitten by the bug.

 

BMW trade on their name big time - far more than Ferrari. The X3 is worthless offroad, not much of a towing/cargo vehicle and not better than middling in its detail. Essentially, it's for people who like the badge but needed a minivan.

They also make some pretty average versions of the 3 and 5 series (525i) for people who want the badge/look, but use their car primarily as a phone booth and fashion accessory.

Don't even get me started on MBZ...

So, back to your original question: I think you could buy a Ferrari in part for its name, because there's a lot of integrity in the name (i.e., Ferrari aren't making a V6 version of the F430 in order to sell more cars based on badge appeal.) There are other marques that people buy 'just for the name' more than Ferrari.

 

I think the name has something to do with it.

Legendary, you know. Something that has made a mark on peoples lives... A reputation that everyone can recall...

The same reasons people laugh at Daewoo.




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Jon

 

If didn't buy just the name you would be driving a Z06, and have a Timex on your wrist..its all about function do ya know..Rolex not a reliable timepiece..Ferrari..well you get the picture. Its all about the bling and the attention..