Rev matching and an F1?

F1 does it for you - and quite nicely.

 

With an F1 you can't rev match. On my downshifts I never hear a throttle blip, just gear engagement and the normal rev increase. You can't rev match because you can't depress the clutch on your own between gears. Regardless the F1 is pure race-driving bliss...

 

That is completely false, and you either have never used sport mode or don't ever drive your car hard. When driving normally, my car doesn't seem like it rev-matches but when driving the car hard it is very obvious that it is rev-matching when downshifting.

The answer is YES, F1 transmission equipped cars do rev match and it sounds incredible.

 

Easy there dsevo...first I'll point out that I have a 355, your profile says 360. Any chance the systems are different? Second I will say that my sport mode doesn't seem to work, not sure if it's a switch issue or not. So I'll clarify that my comments apply to the 355 in normal driving mode. I'll let others chime in - on downshifts, does the car truly increase revs before engaging the lower gear? And can you even tell the difference in the seat between the revs being increased milliseconds before the clutch being engaged, discerning that it wasn't just the quick gear engagement increasing the revs?

 

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I quoted that last sentence, because it's a good question.

I think most modern Ferraris have rev limiters that would cut ignition if you tried to over-rev.

But would the F1 gearbox refuse to downshift if the revs are too high for the lower gear?

 

The owner's manual says it will not downshift when the rev is too high for the next lower gear, just as it will upshift automatically at redline.

Perfect downshifts at any rev is the best thing about the F1. With a manual, blipping the throttle is easy but truly matching the rev is very difficult, so I always got it wrong when I used to drive a manual.

 

My bad, I forgot that some 355's have F1. And yes, it is very noticeable when it is match revving. I recommend figuring out your sport mode issue, because at least in my car's case, sport mode improves the car 100%.

 

+1. It will not allow you to over rev the motor.

 

+2 If you read the literature on the car and the owners handbook it clarifies that in the driving the car section

 

I am sure others can chime in on actual number of iterations, but F1s have had a dramatic change in evolution over the years and models. I had a 355 F1, went to a 360 F1 and now to a 575 F1. Each was different in shift change duration also in how revs were controlled during shift. The Sport mode has a much more pronounced rev change because the shift is quicker. And the rev match is much more noticeable in the 575 than the 355 because of the shift duration.

Got a chance to drive a friends 599 the other day. Talk about quick shift times! And rev matching was very noticeable. What a car!!!

 

The 355F1, due to no "drive by wire", cannot really rev match by itself. I think it might try a little with the idle speed control circuit, but I'm not sure of that. It does happen pretty quick and smooth, so it can be hard to tell. I do know that you can manually rev match by blipping the throttle, just like a normal manual transmission. To me this adds to the involvement, as you get to be a part of the process.

 

As nobody else has done so yet, I just wanted to say this:

Don't you F1 guys ever miss doing your own rev-matching double-clutched downshift and feeling it work perfectly all on your own?

For me, that traditional metal gate and gear lever are worth nearly as much as the engine sound.

Now - on a serious note: Why can't the engineers use some of their imagination to provide BOTH the auto-shifting capability of the F1, but also retain the true ability to use a traditional clutch and gear lever when you want to?

 

No....because I do that in my manual 6 speed E46 M3

 

I was just gonna say I do that in my manual E36 M3 Yes pushing 3 pedals and all that is fun, which is why I do have a car like that and intend on buying more like that. My 355F1 is just as fun to drive though. And no, the 355 does not match revs on downshifts, but you can manually blip it.

-R

 

It's a god idea to lift the throttle on up shifts and it doesnt hurt on downs either. The computer will cut throttle and blip it on downshifts, but if you lift just before, it's less drastic on the drive line.

 

+1 Good points, there's no mechanism in place for the 355 to rev match even if it wanted too.

 

Next model: "Seamless" gearbox?

Formula 1 "not relevant" to production cars? Yah, right.

 

Pardon me if I should be wrong, but was it not the other way around?

 

I bought a 2003.5 SMG M3 as my daily driver and loved it. I couldn't stop blipping the paddles just to hear it perfectly rev match on the downshift....in 80 mSecs! I ran DE at Summit Point and you could just click it to 2nd in the braking zone at the end of the straight for the hairpin and feel it engage perfectly the minute it the speed allowed for 8,000RPM. I was able to focus more on braking and turn in............but it just wasn't as much fun.

I now have a 2006 M3 Competition - 6 speed. Getting it right manually is pure heaven at the track!