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New Host For USGP?

Discussion in 'F1' started by Duck_Hollywood, Jul 13, 2007.

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Where should the USGP be held?

  1. Las Vegas, on the Strip

  2. Las Vegas, on a new track

  3. Long Beach, street race

  4. Texas, TMS

  5. Laguna Seca

  6. Orlando

  7. Watkins Glen

  8. Bring it back to Indy

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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I voted for Vegas on the Strip, although technically I think that is not going to happen: Most likely candidate for a USGP09 (forget next year) will be Las Vegas in the streets like Champ Cars this spring.

    I love that proposal for a track near Orlando. That could actually work because Orlando has an equally high touristic appeal to Europeans as does Las Vegas but with the added benefit of less travel time.

    Personally I could always find as many good reasons to go to Orlando as to Las Vegas. I can never get enough of theme parks. :)
     
  2. Duck_Hollywood

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    I remember reading somewhere a few years ago, before F1 came back to Indy, that Disney was interested in doing an F1 race. Thats why I put orlando on the list.
    Eddie Gossage from TMS has spoken about hosting an F1 race in the past, and I also read on this site that he met with bernie last month, thats why I put texas on the list.

    I think if American is going to host another gran prix, someone is going to have to build a state of the art track, and why not build one in Vegas? I think putting together a street race is less cost effective.
     
  3. tifosi12

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    Would be cool. They already run a cup car oval there.

    Mickey Mouse is about the size of Bernie, they should get along just fine. :)
     
  4. yzee

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    The IRL's first race was on a make**** parking lot oval at Disney World and was called the Disney 200.
     
  5. Papa Duck

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    I think everyone can forget about Las Vegas. The casinos may have the money, but they are not going to spend any of it for something that is going to keep people out of them. It was a fight to get the city to agree to spend the money it took to repave the streets that were used for the Champ Car race. The downtown casinos are still complaining about how the race limited the access to the casinos the three days they ran. We had no fireworks on New Years of 2000 because the casinos didn't want anything that would drow the people outside.

    The cost of the track aside, who is going to put up the BIG dollars that Bernie extorts from the organizers? Indy holds enough people to keep the ticket prices down. There would not be a place here to hold that many people, so prices will go up to European standards. I paid $375 in 1995 for my ticket to Monza. I can't see that many people will to pay that here. Indy drew a great crowd in 2000 because there where a lot of people, especially 500 fans, who wanted to see what the bid deal was. Most I talked to said they wouldn't be back.

    Another problem with Vegas is the schedule. Canada and Las Vegas have a little diffrence in weather. If the race would have been in Vegas this year it would have been about 110 degrees. I don't think Canada would want to give up its date, and there wouldn't be much of a chance of doing North America twice like they did in 2000. But I could be wrong.
     
  6. Duck_Hollywood

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    well if you build a state of the art GP track, rivaling some of the new tracks in Asia, here in the US. Besides F1 your also going to have IRL, NASCAR, ALMS, and Champ Cars interested in running there as well, so there is money to be made, if you do it in a top market city. convince the city that they are going to make millions when all the F1 fans show up, and they might be willing to pitch in on the costs.

    what about Houston? lot of race fans down there, but no serious race track, they do run a down town street race, so the city has the right mind set to want to step up to an F1 race, just a thought.
     
  7. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    I guess you'll have to add an oval to get NASCAR to come through the city. I don't think they're crazy about adding another road course. The drivers don't like the two stops (iirc) they make a year to road courses. What would be the incentive for NASCAR? $$$?
     
  8. Duck_Hollywood

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    if its a road course that can seat more fans, dont you think NASCAR would want to switch to a larger road course? especialy if its in a larger market
     
  9. robert_c

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  10. Whisky

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    It wasn't a problem during all the years we did not have a USGP in the 90's.

    I hope everyone realizes that most of these new circuits, mostly in Asia, are paid for by the governments of those countries.

    If TG and Indy could not make it work, I don't see how anywhere else can, that's the problem. As I keep saying, I don't care for TG, but he put an awful lot of money into Indy and the event, and he knew when to say when.
     
  11. ggjjr

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    You may all laugh, but after this years Detroit GP it may be the place that is best set up to host F1. They have hosted the MLB Allstar game, the Superbowl, and the upcoming Final Four in the last three years. As far as money, Penske is the one behind the new race. I'll get my nomex suit on, now.

    George
     
  12. L8Braker

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    Barber would be a good track for the drivers.....everything else sucks but the track would make for good racing.
     
  13. vipersteve

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    Road America and then Road Atlanta
     
  14. rmani

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    cancun was supposed to join the calendar a couple of years ago buy i think they ran into some track issues the area just wasn't working or something. I definitely think a Cancun race, in addition to a las vegas nighttime street race, would be great.
     
  15. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    The Cancun track looks boring imo. I think the project is cancelled anyway.

    http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3387/pistacancnns3.jpg

    Plus, the track would be in the middle of nowhere if it were to be completed. Only near the airport. http://wikimapia.org/#y=20976187&x=-86887093&z=12&l=0&m=a&v=2
     
  16. robert_c

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  17. Whisky

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    What I'm saying is Penske won't do ANYTHING in ANY venture unless he is 'guaranteed' to MAKE MONEY.

    I just don't see what he can do that TG didn't.
     
  18. ggjjr

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    I don't know. He spent a lot of time on the Superbowl, and as far as I know, he had no business interest in it. Same with the Detroit GP. Sure, he has a team in the series, but what benefit does he receive by having them race in Detroit. He seems genuinely interested in trying to boost Detroit's ailing economy by bringing events and getting various leaders to cooperate for the greater good.

    George
     
  19. tifosi12

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    Frank Williams made an interesting comment in the Euro GP pre race show: He said there is a chance that "within the next couple of months somebody might pull a rabbit out of the hat" in regards to the USGP 08. He mentioned Las Vegas or some other place. Does he know something we don't?

    There isn't much time until USGP08 but if they'd base it on the CHAMP race in Las Vegas this spring, it might just work.
     
  20. jknight

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    Roger has two teams running Labor Day weekend at Belle Isle - his Porsche Spyders on Saturday's ALMS race and his IRL team on Sunday. He's been doing quite a bit of upgrading at Belle Isle.

    Carol
     
  21. kraftwerk

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    Andreas I am sure brundle was asking him about the french GP
    not sure tho


     
  22. Duck_Hollywood

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    I saw that too about a possible 08 USGP, they even showed a couple clips of vegas while mentioning it.
     
  23. SMS

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    Word about town is that the infield section of the Indy Speedway, being reconfigured for MotoGP 08, would be the course available should F1 return to Indy.
     
  24. ItaliaF1

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    ...As I have predicted.
     
  25. SMS

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    I remember that back in 2000 when the track was built there were several plans for changes depending on the success of the event, one even had a cross over. Based on a number of events, I can see why they did not commit to a major reconstruction earlier, but this layout was obviously in the works for the 08 bikes. Note the direction of travel. If used in the same manner for cars, my precious stand H might not be the best seat any longer.

    Modified track design:

    http://www.redbullindianapolisgp.com/news/story.php?story_id=9470
     

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