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How Will Danica Patrick do if She Drives for Ferrari?

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  1. jk0001

    jk0001 F1 Veteran

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    She might look good on a poster or photo shoot. Now as a driver give me a break. Wake up and smell the coffee
     
  2. Kami

    Kami Formula Junior

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    I tend to agree with maxorido. I was actually just thinking about this the other day in the thread about Speed not having a drive. Not that I'd rather have him instead of Massa or Raikkonen, but IF Ferrari were looking for a driver, I'd love to see an American with Ferrari. I'm sure the car could make him look damn good.
     
  3. 62 250 GTO

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    Her mouth isn't big enough to get her an interview with Ferrari.
     
  4. PDX Tifosi

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    Nope. Just big enough to get her through her years in England, and a few years with Rahal.

    Like the poster says....... Somewhere, someone is already sick of her S#!t! Give her another year or two and I bet AGR will be sick of her too!
     
  5. Kravchak

    Kravchak Formula Junior

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    TO MAKE YOUR POINT, just look at JV and his debut with a real car then what he did when he got a so so car and the rest is history
     
  6. SonomaRik

    SonomaRik F1 Veteran

    Well, she could replace Scott Speed....from what I've seen, she at least knows how to hit back.
     
  7. jk0001

    jk0001 F1 Veteran

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    She is not good enough to drive the food cart at a F1 event. Face it she is just T & A to sell tickets.
     
  8. 2000YELLOW360

    2000YELLOW360 F1 World Champ

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    It amazes me that guys with no talent, who've never raced sit back and denigrate someone competing at a very high level. What a jack-off. Have any of you ever driven a Champ car, an IRL car? If you haven't your opinion means nothing, and the fact that you'd publish your nonsense is humorous to say the least.

    Without knowing her set up, the engineer's name and resume, and the state of her cars during the race, you can't evaluate her, and attempting to do so, speaks about your cognitive ability or lack thereof.

    I don't know how good she is or isn't, but I do know that she's led an IRL race, damn near won Indy, so she isn't dog meat. She may or may not be F1 material, but I don't have enough info to make any such comments.

    Having raced for 20+ years, with an occassional success or two, I think that my commentary makes a little more sense than some of the above.

    Art
     
  9. shahedc

    shahedc Formula 3

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    Art

    +1 for your post.

    You've raced for 20 years? Wow! I've only started watching professional racing recently... are you a famous racer?

    Thanks,
    shahedc
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  10. Senna3xWC

    Senna3xWC F1 Rookie

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    Champ car or IRL? No.

    But I have raced for nearly 20 years myself in a variety of lesser categories and more race wins in an automobile (one) than Danica, so I think I can speak with at least a modicum of insight.

    What I do know about her is that she has had top equipment, plenty of funding, and significantly more resources at her disposal than a lot of other drivers who have achieved more than her. No, I don't know her engineer's resume though given that they would have worked for Rahal and AGR, I can assume that they aren't too incompetent. Nor do I know her specific set-up but I can see how well she does relative to her teammates and I have to assume that set-up information is shared within the team, particularly if a driver is struggling.

    The fact is that, with identical equipment to her teammates, and access to all the funding she might ever want as a driver, she has accomplished very little to speak of in the series, if not her entire career. I can readily see her performance relative to her own teammates and it is far less noteworthy.

    So, while we may not have ALL the information about her car, set-up. or engineer's CV, we can see what we see, which is a driver in one of the top teams in the IRL being outperformed by ALL her teammates. And you don't need to have Champ Car/IRL seat time to recognize that.
     
  11. maxorido

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    Lmao...
     
  12. 355

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    This is a real waste of internet space. Anyone on here that has said that this chick could outrace even one F1 driver should go to the doctor right away and check their hard drive for a virus.
     
  13. James_Woods

    James_Woods F1 World Champ

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    +++.

    But you know what just seared itself into my brain while having that laugh?

    A certain M. Andretti ran F1 and had some pretty bad luck at Indy in his own right. OMG - what if this Ferrari ride really happened by some weird chance?
     
  14. jk0001

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    After a few years she will become only a foot note. She is just a Marketing ploy to sell t-shirts and tickets. I would not be suprised if Lindsay Lohan will be out there next when she gets out of Rehab or Jail. If you want to watch great racing watch the grass root racing, those guys have heart and they are breaking their butts on their own dime.
     
  15. 2000YELLOW360

    2000YELLOW360 F1 World Champ

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    As for your having more wins than here: she won more than a few races on her way up to that level. As an example: I won over 40 - 50 races at the local level. Led a national race, but never won one. Won more than a few championships, but again, never won a national level race, although I did finish in the top 10 more than a few times. At that level winning is very difficult. She has qualified very well in her races, if you'll note.

    I have some experience with these teams. You don't have a clue as to what her agreement with Michael Andretti is or isn't. As for her having equal equipment, I don't have a clue as to whether or not that is true. I do know that the engines provided to the teams vary as can the chassis, and the suspension. If you've ever seen the engine contracts, you'd know that (I have, in representation of a team, and a driver).

    Each driver has an engineer, who sets the car up. It is not uncommon for engineers to make or break a driver. Ask Junior why his engineer from Daddie's team is going with him to his new team. So my point is that with the paucity of facts, a lot of people are jawing about stuff that they know little about.

    I didn't race cars, I raced motorcycles. The difference between those teams at the upper levels is probably not all that significant, and surely less than having raced at an much lower level. Things get real funny when there is a lot of money involved, and I suspect that none of you folks have a lick of experience at that level. That was my point.

    Art
     
  16. FerrariF1v12

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    simply the stupidest thread ever seen..Danica is has to be the most overrated driver in the world today....all jokes aside i truly believe i can beat her on an F1 circuit..i plan on becoming an F1 driver.yet i kno the path it takes..i have exeptional driving skill..yet i simply dont know where to start..im getting my Motorsports Technology degree in 2yrs @ alfred state college...lets see what the future has instore.
     
  17. ItaliaF1

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    Really, an must we have threads like this? It seems like we get one every week.
     
  18. 2000YELLOW360

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    If you aren't already established, you're too old. Do you or your family have at least one million to fund way up the ladder of various racing venues? If not, you've got a pipe dream. I've got clients who've gone up those pahs, but they all started in karts (used to be motorcycles, but the path changed over the last 30 years). If you aren't a proven winner in various open wheel series, I suspect you won't even get anyone to talk to you. Remember the young guys coming in are 20 years old, or close to that age. What have you done to warrant anyone putting a several million dollar machine at your disposal? If you don't have a track record, you'd better have some very rich family.

    Art
     
  19. Senna3xWC

    Senna3xWC F1 Rookie

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    Actually she has no wins in cars, the only races she has won have been in karts.


    Me neither but AGR claims that all drivers get equal equipment. I figure they do have a clue if that is true.
     
  20. 2000YELLOW360

    2000YELLOW360 F1 World Champ

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    Knowing the teams as I do, I wouldn't believe a word of it. Just like Colin Edwards gets the same materials as Rossi (likewise Nicky Hayden and Dani Petrosa). Not likely, but the teams say it's true.

    Art
     
  21. yzee

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    I'm not to codemm or defend. But let's keep it straight. She was Q2 behind Castroneves. Ahead of her AGR teamates. I was 2 ft. from Dario as he got out of the car at the end of qualifying. He threw his gloves down, and then grinned. Why, i don't know.

    Then in the first turn, Kannan pushed her left, freaked out, jerked right and put Marco on his top.

    Monday, Dario says the first turn melay was the pace cars fault.

    If you like her or not, we should at least speak the facts.
     
  22. callaides

    callaides Formula Junior

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    You basically proved his point for him?

    Fisi is/was way slower than Alonso, yet won a few races because he was in a machine superior to everyone else's. Just like Massa this year.
     
  23. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Yes I was joking here, but I still stand by my point, ie:

    A good car as the Ferrari F2007 is makes an average drivers like Massa look better than he is.

    Replace Massa with any average driver and the results would be the same. Fisi proves this with Renault. When the car was good he was getting results, but now the car is bad he is completely hopeless.

    Thus if Danica is an average ability driver (in F1 terms) she would do okay, but not brilliant.

    Many of you seem to think Massa has improved considerably. Yes he has improved his consistency, but basically the car is good ... when Ferrari had problems earlier this season he was off the pace.
    Pete
     
  24. 2000YELLOW360

    2000YELLOW360 F1 World Champ

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    In cars, 90% is the car including the tires. 10% driver. In bikes it's 60 - 40 with the bike in the majority, at least at the highest levels.

    What amazes me is that 99% of the people here, even if they were watching a races, don't have the ability to judge the ability of the driver, other than the results. Michael Andretti is a prime example: always used up his cars, and sometimes used them up before the end of the race, and they broke. Great drivers go as fast, but don't use up their vehicles. An example: Freddy Spencer and Ron Pierce both rode for Honda in the 80s. Both would run about the same lap times. Freddy's brakes were always worn a lot less than Ron's, as were his tires, etc. Reason: better rider. Same deal with cars.

    Art
     
  25. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Amen.

    Many people on this site have never, ever watched a real race I believe. What they need to do is go to their local track on a simple club day and wander down to an interesting corner and REALLY watch. You soon work out who has the ability and who has the car.

    Pete
     

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