The standard Tubi's (like 99% of the aftermarket systems) still use heavy stainless steel. They have an NGT model which weighs only 8kgs but the standard tubi that most people fit weight similar (just 2kgs heavier) heavy weight to the 360CS system. I.e. its 25.3kg's for the backbox with tips and ~45kgs including cats. The stock Modena system is 30.15kgs for comparison, ~50kgs including cats. As mentioned a Titanium system can weigh as little as 6kgs!
Sorry for the es-skue on the thread but do these numbers as far as weight gains or reductions follow lead in the after market Tubi for the 430??
My CS is a great car , road and track but just miss a bit more torque and top end power , im hoping this new car will plug that along with 430C rawness!!! looking forward to watching the car get put through its paces on the 4th Sep at Fiorano ..... will report back with pics if allowed Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
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Looks are in the eye of the beholder and all that. I feel 360CS looks much more in keeping with archetypal classic Pinifarina styling, before the 'new age'. With a new design director times and company style change. Gone are swoopy organic hand drawn curves seen on gorgeous examples like the F355 and 360, in are modern angles and sharp computer aided design styled lines. Its a fashion thing and I think it will come back around in a cycle. Personally I think its a shame that the new style direction (started with Enzo) has hit the Ferrari marque. It was OK on a BMW but it seems a shame to go all Chris Bangles on us. At least it will mean people will grow to like the new styling (give it time), it will just take a while.
I have a 996 GT3 RS and am constantly wrestling with the idea of trading up to the 997 version - a huge financial knock here in S. Africa. So, like you, I have also made pro/con lists like yours. When I look at the list, there is no good reason to do the trade - my 996 RS is truly incredibile. I've driven the new car and there's no way it's worth what the trade-up would cost me. But the emotional side of the brain always seems to win these arguments. Porsche had a great ad for their Turbo some years back: "Keeps the rational part of your brain pinned to the back of your skull". Good luck with your decision. Can't make mine either.
I agree your dilemma is very similar. An article on the 996 GT3 RS closes with "Anticipated to become a modern classic, the Porsche 996 GT3 RS is perhaps the ultimate Porsche aficionado's collector's piece." That kind of praise has been heaped on the CS as well. But, as you say, in Porsche world, there's a chorus of hype from the "peanut gallery" that would suggest the 997 GT3 is the be all, end all. Not so, of course. A friend of mine has a heavily modified, super performing 993TT that he loves and shows no interest in trading "up" for a 997TT, even though he can easily afford one. I guess that's the desirable state to be in, having a car that justs fits like a glove, even as it ages. I'm hoping my CS continues to grip me in this way. Cheers.
I actually think a average driver will drive faster in a Scuderia than in a 997 GT2. If the 997 GT2 is anywhere near the 996 GT2 behaviour of course. It's a widow maker. Edit: But then again put Walter Röhrl in a GT2 and a Ferrari test driver in a Scuderia I'd like to think the GT2 would be faster, but only by tiny margins. Of course, all these are theories as I have no experience with either.
a few tenths here and there, maybe even a second or two... big whoop, both will be stupid fast anyway you slice it. what would matter more to me is how much fun i'm having in the process. screaming Ferrari V-8 would certainly add a lot to the fun factor...
Agreed. For me, the organic curvaceous style epitomizes the classic shape of a Ferrari, like that of the 250 GT of the early 60's. The curved form evokes the the contours of a voluptous woman, like a Botticelli. The CS is a modern classic. The angular forms of the Lambo are contemporary, and as in the countach of the 80's and define an era, but the curved forms are timeless.
+ 1 ! This is exactly what I think too. Won't matter to me if a GT2 is faster than a 430 SC by 0.01 sec or vice-versa. The feelings, emotions, sensations involves while crashing your foot on the throttle is where the story begins... and ends. With all my respect to Porsches (I'm still a P.driver BTW) but Ferrari IS the next big thing!
