zaino wax

hi, I am using Zaino on my car. the results are amazing. Great polymer based application, but i suggest you top it up with a coat of P21s.

 

I have my cars detailed and it is a variety of Zaino products that are used the results are fantastic better than any other products that I have used.

 

I would say that 75%+ of the S. FL. section uses Zaino on their F-Cars.

 

I absolutely love Zaino products. For regular maintenance, the wax buffs out very easily unlike some other competing products. I also like the detailing spray for daily usage and it smells nice to!

 

I haven't used it on the Ferrari yet, but I did a full detail of my M5 in July with Zaino products with terrific results. It was my first time using them. The next time I detail the 360, the Zaino system will be the choice.

 

See http://www.fca-se.org/conc_3.htm and http://www.fca-se.org/conc_4.htm and http://www.fca-se.org/conc_5.htm

 

Another Zaino convert here. Put it on my 328 last month. Fantastic! The more you layer, the better it looks. Unlike wax, a month later and it still looks fantastic.

 

Funny, I was a little pessimistic at first about these polymer-based products because they are SO MUCH less work than the old polishing/waxing protocols. But technology moves forward, and these products are much easier to work with, provide an excellent result, and I believe they last longer. The Zaino system is very user friendly. I'm sure there are others that are similar, but the Zaino stuff is a whole system of polishes, sealants, washes & detail sprays designed to be used together. I am looking forward to doing the Ferrari with those products next.

 

I have tried lots of polish and wax products and had to try Zaino after reading about it. Bought some last year and used it on my Boxer. It is strange to use at first, because application involves using very little product several times and it is almost clear, unusual when you are used to using carnuba wax. I have to say the results were fantastic, a real glossy finish, and it seems to stay on for months. The appearance is different to that achieved with carnuba wax, more of a glassy shine and is a matter of preference. On my Pantera which is a dark slate blue metallic I prefer wax such as Zymol or Souveran.
here are some pics of the boxer with Zaino.
Steve
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So which Zaino products did you use, Z-2, Z-5, etc? Any that you would or would not recommend?

 

I am Central Florida's only "Offically" licensed detailer. I will actually be traveling to Carslile to help educated consumers on Zaino, so I guess your in luck

As far as Zaino goes compared to waxes, Zaino will beat them in terms of durablity, no contest. Looks are subjective, but generally speaking, carnuaba waxes tend to produce a deep glow, where as Zaino will produce a wet gloss. The reflections in Zaino will be crystal clear, where as a wax will be lightly distorted (it is this distortion that creates the illusion of depth. While the solvents used in carnuaba waxes prevent excessive layering or coating (the solvents used to make the carnuaba soft enough for application act to clean off any wax on the car), Zaino can be layered or coated. These coats can help build great depth into the paint.

The appication of Zaino is very tricky, because Zaino doesn't use oils or silicones in its products. 90 percent of your appearance comes from proper prep.

As far as products go, here is a quick list off of the top of my head.

Z2pro- Produces a brillant luster and is 100 percent clear.
Z5pro- Carnuaba wax like appearance, though glossier.
ZAIO- An all in one product, that deep cleans and polishes the paint, while adding a layer of proteciton. This is like the primer.
Clear Seal- A revolutionary product that you mist on, wipe around, and let dry. No buffing required.

Like I said, 90 percent or more of your appearance is going to come from the prep work done on the paint, before appication. As such, I professional polished the Ferrari's in the picture, but it should atleast give you an idea of how reflective the surface can become with Zaino. Take for instance the silver Challange Stradale. It has around 10 coats of Zaino on it (a combination of Z5/Z2/ClearSeal/Z8) and its depth for silver is incredible. To make silver reflect is a difficult process, and much of that gloss is comming from the high levels of Zaino on it.
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On the Boxer I used Z2 and Z5 applying several coats of the Z5 first followed by several of the Z2. They used to make a Z3 for paints with a clearcoat but I have not used it and the range may have been updated since I bought Zaino almost two years ago. Z5 is claimed to be best for minimising the appearance of fine swirl marks but I had the Boxer mopped and clayed over first by a friend who was an Autoglym detailer at the time so the paint was in excellent condition. One of my other cars has some very minor swirls on the boot area only visible under fluorescent lights. On that I prefer to first use a glaze, namely 3M Imperial Hand Glaze, a great product. As said in the next post prep of the paint is the key to a great result, that applies with any product.
Steve

 

I've used Zaino, actually used it until the bottle was empty. but, I don't see any particular advantage to it over several of the other polymers, and the other ones don't require a catylist to get the drying process going. Griots has a good one and there are several others.

I must confess though, I've gone back to carnuba I like the depth of the shine better with real wax. P21s is my current favorite, and is not quite as difficult or fussy to work with as some of the carnubas i've used in the past.

I start with a swirl remover, go to a glaze, then finish with P21s gives really good results.Not sure these pictures really do the wax shine justice.

Dave
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I went the opposite direction -- used to use P21S and now using Zaino:
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Peter

That 330 looks beautiful.

Milton

 

Thanks Milton -- I still owe you big time for saving me a trip to Colorado!

 

I'm in the Zaino is not worth the effort camp.

Even with catalyst the stuff is a PITA if the temp and humidity isn't right. Yes, I read the directions, used correctly and even call a priest in the process.

It provides great results but so do other products with less effort IMO.

 

Hey Boulder, I'm actually surprised by your review. I found the stuff to be much easier to work with than any of the other brain damage products around... What religion was the priest, maybe that was at issue? Just messing with you, no harm meant...

 

The ease of using the product is part of what keeps me using Zaino!

 

Could have been the priest. He was out on bail pending charges he said were "trumped up"....

My rub with Zaino is the cure time. If slightly less than optimum temp you can wait around when there are products with little wait at all. Even with a catalyst it's just hard to work with at 65 degrees and 80% humidity for example. I can do the same level of surface prep and finish with Klasse/3m Pro/Mothers/stupid expensive Zymol and the results are great in about 1/2 the time. The one thing I will give Zaino is that you can re-coat between full treatments easily and it does have an edge in how long it lasts.

I'll also admit that this hassle factor seems to be a minority position although I don't know (I am sure there are some out there) any pro detailers that use Zaino. I'd guess is that it's too time consuming for them.

 

There are a couple new additions to the Zaino line that makes it easier. The ZAIO (all-in-one) is a one-step cleaner/surface prep and ZCS (clear seal) is a final surface step sealant that doesn't require buffing. The cure time for ZAIO is 15 minutes and the cure time for Z2 (for clear coat) or Z3 (for single stage paint) is 30 minutes (no catalyst (ZFX) required if ZAIO is used as prep), followed by ZCS. So this is fairly simple and fast, but if you want to do more layers, it needs to be done the following day because you can't put more than 3 layers on in one day.

The products themselves are very easy to use, but it does take several steps and figuring out all the products is a bit of alphabet soup (there's also Z6 which should be used as a wipedown between the steps above, and Z8 can be used as a final wipedown after CS, and Z5 which is similar to Z3/Z2 but hides swirl marks (there are no abrasives)). Another key to using Zaino is that you need to use very little product -- 1 ounce can do the entire car and the less product you use the better because it cures more effectively when thinly applied (this is good news, but it does require some mental retraining to get used to).