WTF 599 DINo test mule

Must admit hadn't heard the LDM quote, only heard that he said there would not be an entry level Ferrari leaving them clear to produce a Dino, I'll ask the Dealer!

 

a Dino was built before and was intended to be it's own line separate from a "pure" Ferrari. it's now sharply risen in value in recent times when it was overlooked for decades. if a new iteration revival of the nameplate of Dino holds to a similar ethos, ie, a separate line from a Ferrari, whilst possessing concrete Ferrari DNA, what is objectionable about that? it is part of Ferrari's heritage as an automaker.

were a new Dino variant offered it would probably be sold out within a few months. how could that be bad, too?

as well there is the Fiat Dino that purely runs a front-engined, Ferrari-designed, V6 configuration, the Spyder designed by Pininfarina, the coupe by Bertone. therefore a front-engined Dino would not be so far-fetched nor off the mark as Dino is a separate line from Ferrari and features front-engined cars as integral to it's heritage.

 

so the facts :
- No Entry Level Ferrari said LDM
- Test mule featuring front engine
- wheelbase is shorter than a 599

That could mean :

+The price would be similar to a F430 maybe even above.
+Then the car would have to be very good/attractive to justify such price.

Concerning the Engine and Chassis

+ The engine of the mule is for sure not a V12 since engine is behind the wheels in the 599 chassis. 4 cylinders less could explain that.
+ chassis could be a scale down version of the 599's one. (both in width and length)


My guess is then :

Front V8 (hybrid?) SL like foldable carbon roof and more GT oriented and comfy than our 430.

I will call my hypothesis the Ferrari 460 GTH California (Gran Turismo Hybrido

who wants one ?

 

Stanou

I'm given to believe it will be pitched below the 430

 

Where is 410SA and Napolis on this?

 

3 things are for sure:

1) This is definitely a ferrari prototype, not a Maserati proto as Ferrari wouldn't stand for such a thing.

2) This new car will be front-mid engined and will have a shorter wheelbase than a 599(space taken from front of vehicle denotes something smaller than a v-12, more likely a detuned 430 engine or even a 360 engine. then again a blown v-6 would fit nicely)

3) To further differentiate the new model, the front and rear track on this new model is smaller than the 599

 

Hi Mark,

but what about LDM recent statement ?

He wouldn't benefit from a lie, would he ? His credibility is at stake..

After all the 612 and 599 MSRP are almost the same over here.
There could be place for more than one around 170k euros Ferrari

by the way, last year a 612 all wheel drive was caught on spy shots, could this one be an AWD too ?

OR it could be the Ferrari Michelloti !!!(I forgot the name, but it means 1000 kilos in italian)

 

Is it really a lie if this new entry level car comes out as a Dino and not a Ferrari, as was the case with the original?

 

mmm a Ferrari without the Ferrari badge, isn't that reserved to Maserati models nowadays?

 

Everyone take a look at these threads to hear Napolis and 410SA opinions on this topic.

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=149918&highlight=Dino

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148410&highlight=Dino

 

well not necessarily if the Dino is to carry on as it was from the very beginning; it was a Dino of it's own line. and is now rising in popularity on the open market, probably one of the many reasons why the prospect of a new one has been discussed by the automakers who may be involved in bringing it to life.

 

LM denies it, but, correct me if I'm wrong, he did deny the 430 Scuderia as well, didn't he?

A new model would certainly be very interesting, specially if based on the Dino. But I don't think the car on the link is it.
And by the way, what happened to the 612 4WD? Haven't heard about it again. Was it all just rumours?

 

If anyone here knows anything ,these two I would trust first.
Seems like both are convinced that the car is coming ,in one form or another....

 

It's a 599. Where did Dino come from? I guess the media wants to see a Dino so they're calling it a Dino 599.

 

Wouldn't it be as simple as Ferrari creating a new Dino... as just that... a Dino. When they first created the Dino's, they were badged as Dino's and were not regarded as Ferraris. So if they did this again, LDM wouldn't lose face at all... he would have been telling the truth, AND there would be a new, modern Dino. Isn't it that simple? They could even sell them at Ferrari dealerships, as they did with Maserati, and possibly even the new Alfa 8C. Maybe I am just naive.

 

wheelbase seems very narrow compared to the 599 (wheels very retracted into wells), as if intended for a much smaller car.

http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070815.003/6070815.003.Mini6L.jpg

 

you're correct. it is that simple.

the Dino line was it's own thing with Ferrari and Pininfarina/Bertone on board. the outrage or negativity or confusion regarding a resurrection of the Dino lineage, rather, a continuation after a hiatus, is rather baffling. the Dino line included the "Ferrari" and Fiat incarnations, the Fiat one having a front-engined Ferrari V6.

 

if the car was going to be a Dino and not a Ferrari, why would they keep the prancing horse on the 599 boot ? It would have take 2 minutes to get rid of the animal.
And since they know the pictures will be all over the web in a matter of hours, I would think this is intended.

Specially since the car was spotted at the ring and not fiorano track I think.

Couldn't that be another hints that would say : No Dino boys, it's an all new Ferrari run to your dealer now.

LDM didn't denie the Scuderia if I remember well.

 

Interestingly in the other thread 410SA notes that the new Ferrari will be a frontengined V8, which will give the current midengined V8 room to move upmarket (perhaps a return of the 12 cylinder midengine??). If the new Ferrari isn´t going to be badged ´Dino´ then Luca actually hasn´t lied about not producing a new Dino, nor has he lied about not a new entry-level Ferrari. Not really anyway.

 

right.

debadging the test car would fuel even more rumours of the Dino being certain, when thus far it is not confirmed to be true.

yes, it doesn't confirm or deny a Dino.

it does confirm that Ferrari is testing a new performance package. i must note that, at least to me, the "test mule 599" looks different proportionately from a "regular" 599. something about the pictures appears awry, as if they altered the car. it's proportions are off-looking. snubbier. maybe i'm imagining things...

 

Exactly.

 

If you look at the rear 3/4 view... the one where the wheels look really tucked in... it looks like some lines and things are hanging down... perhaps it is a mid engine car... i can't imgain what lines woudl be hanging down that low... i doubt it would be for the transaxle.

 

got news from swedish dealership, no doubt dino will be in production

 

I think the number plate is interesting. The 06...-plates can only be obtained by car dealerships etc, and the S indicates the car is registered in Stuttgart (!), whereas Ferrari Germany is located in Wiesbaden. You're all wrong, guys... it isn't the Dino, it isn't a 599, it isn't the Millechilli, it's a Porsche!