How much alcohol to go into cardiac arrest?

Alcohol IS an important part of college life. For those few years you have an excuse to get stupid drunk, get arrested, have lots of sex, and do drugs because "that was back in college."

Most people do/did wild things within those years. Letting a bunch of stupid, frat boys, "peer pressure," and hunt for acceptance talk someone into drinking himself to death is beyond dumb. As others have said though, maybe it was just luck of the drawl.

 

I was quoting uro i wasn't being sarcastic. I know alcohol is an important part of college life (for some)

 

Yes, it's possible to do (and survive to tell bits and pieces of the story that you can vaguely remember). It's definitely not smart, but it is possible.

 

In 15 mins?

 

First off I have to say God Bless this kid and his family and friends who will indeed miss him. It's a sad set of circumstances.

But I really do agree with Uro on this. Every time something happens, no matter what it is, there's the immediate call to "find the person responsible". No one is ever held to their own actions.

In this case, however, it is extreme negligence on the part of the Frat as well as the Big Brother. BOTH KNOW or SHOULD KNOW the consequences of drinking that much. If it wasn't the brother, someone should have stepped in and said enough is enough.

I'm sure not everyone in the Frat was aware of what was going on or were even there. BUT, most of us learn at an early age that even if you didn't commit the act, you were there and you didn't stop it. Therefore you too are held accountable.

It's an unfortunate situation that could have been avoided. Regardless of what happens to the frat members, this is something most of them will live with forever, especially the big brother. The guilt he will feel will haunt him for the rest of his life.

 

I don't know about 15 minutes. Never seen or experienced anything in that amount of time.

 

By the time this happens, parents failure to lead kicks in. What Mr. Gump said in the first scene comes home to roost.






QUOTE=UroTrash;136596681]Every time this happens, every year, someone screams to ban this or that.

Please.

People die on motorcycles, they die in boating accidents, they die in a lot of ways.

So to ban the whole social structure because of a rare death is nannying at its worse.


Maybe educate, publicize and offer alternatives to this behavior but don't start banning an important part of college life.

we're such a nation of p***ies.[/QUOTE]

 

Does he have that name now? How does his "big brother" feel now? Let's move on quickly, if we can, and see what we can do to prevent the next one.

 

Still don't get it, Steph. For this fellow there isn't going to be any "back in college."

 

Duh. :-X

 

http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-2/1175400146278700.xml&coll=5

Rider freshman incoherent before falling unconscious
Sunday, April 01, 2007 BY DARRYL R. ISHERWOOD AND LISA CORYELL

LAWRENCE -- Gary DeVercelly fell unconscious nearly an hour before medical help was summoned to the Rider University fraternity house where he had been binge drinking, friends said yesterday.




CBS3 in Pennsylvania is reporting that the blood alcohol test results have been released, and Mr. DeVercelly's BAC was .426.

http://cbs3.com/topstories/local_story_092192145.html

 

Clarify:

I'm saddened by the tragic event with your friend, it was just terrible. I think I was one of the first to offer condolences above.

I think the outcry to ban frats and parties is a knee jerk reaction.

I think responsible and semi-responsible drinking is an important part of most college people's lives.

Irresponsible and dangerous drinking is wrong under any circumstances.

Tangentially:

Lord knows, its insane that a 18 or 19 year old can die in Iraq but I could not buy him a beer in a bar. How did the whole 18 to 21 year old thing happen?

 

I typed in this incident on google and a greek forum came up. Here is a rather extreme view from someone on what happened...

And I read in an article that he called his girlfriend before he went over to the frat house and told her he was going to finish a fifth of Absolut Citron that night...........

 

And she did nothing. Not sure how I would have reacted if I found out a loved one was going to do something that stupid, but I don't think I could just sit idly by. Shame.

 

Antiquated legislation. I'm not saying an 18 or 19 year old is responsible enough to buy alcohol and consume it unsupervised(I know I wasn't!), but it draws into sharp relief how silly drinking laws are when you look at it in that light.

 

Its not like most people under 21 aren't drinking

 

Most kids just dont get how destructive alcohol can be. Many kids in college are just trying to be the "bigger drinker" than the guy next to them. Some people can handle it and some cant. It is just sad that this happens. It is the results of massive ammounts immaturity.

 

For anyone who doesn't get USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-08-21-campus-safety_N.htm?csp=34


PKT is gone, the house has apparently been made into an all guys dorm (i'll find out next week). I really can't believe they brought charges against our dean though

 

That's alot. I've done an entire fifth of captain in around 2 hours, at which point I was profucely vomiting, passed out, blacked out etc.. It was by far the most I've had to drink in such a short time and the end result was not fun. There's no reason for it.. I've had a few friends in college get sent to the hospital because of having too much to drink, unfortunatly that's the mentality of too many college students!

 

Breaking news on tv just now was that the charges against the 2 school officials may soon be dropped. Tomorrow they will go in front of a judge and ask for the charges to be dropped. They don't know why they are asking for them to be dropped. No mention of the 3 students that were charged

 

I don't think the 21 law is curbing anyone under 21 from not drinking. They need to lower it. Ironically, I drank more when I was under 21 than I do now!