F-Chat Top Ten Super Cars of all time list

oh you've made my day now - lol
you accuse me of childish innuendo and do it with name calling - very adult im sure - LOL

look cut the bull$hit, you cannot justify your ridiculous "countach isnt a supercar" cr4p and you know it.
no one in their right mind would say that the F40 was the first Supercar ,you cant suddenly redefine a word because it suits your purposes.

the fact is the word Supercar was composed to describe the Miura and other subsequent similar cars - you cant retrractively change that.

 

im intrigued.
what about the miura/countach isnt supercar enough for you ?

 

1.Ferrari Enzo
2.F40
3.250 gto
4.F430/spider
=4.599 GTB
5.F50
6.360/spider/CS
7.Pagani Zonda F
8.Porsche Carrera GT
9.Bugatti Veyron
10.Mclaren F1

 

i'd like to know it to

 

In no particular order

McLaren F1
Ferrari 288 GTO
Ferrari F40
Lamborghini Miura
Mercedes SS KL
Ferrari 365 GTB/4
Pagani Zonda
Porsche 911 RS 2.7
Bugatti EB 110 SS
AC Cobra 427

 

Good balanced list between the classics and contemporaries and various makes

Joe
www.joesackey.com

 

Hard to come up with the top ten, as the Ferrari Daytona, Jaguar XK-SS, Ferrari 250 GTO, Lamborghini Diabo, Porsche 959, GT-40, and a few others should all be on the list. But with only 10 slots, here's what I came up with. I tried to base my decision on what each of these cars brought to the table when they were introduced, and not on my personal preferences, though the two lists would be similar.

10. Mercedes Gullwing
9. Jaguar XJ220
8. Ferrari Enzo
7. Bugatti EB110
6. AC Cobra
5. Lamborghini Countach
4. Bugatti Veyron
3. Ferrari F40
2. Lamborghini Miura
1. McLaren F1

 

will re-tabulate poll at end of august for those wanting to add or change votes.

 

Here is my top ten, not in any particular order.

Enzo-Red
F50-Red
F40-Red
288-Red
512TR-Red
Countach-White
Miura-Orange
LP640-Verde Ithaca
CarreraGT-Black
SLR-Silver

I left out 6.0 Diablo because I will be getting mine delivered in about 2 weeks. This would be the 10 cars I would buy in addition to the Diablo if I ever hit the lotto.LOL!

 

Ferrari F40
Ferrari 250 GTO
Mclaren F1 LM
Porsche Carrera GT
Ferrari Enzo
Koenigsegg CCX
Maserati MC12
Lamborghini Countach
Ford GT
Lamborghini LP640

 

McLaren F1
Mercedes SLR Coupe (50's version)
Ford GT40
Bugatti Royale
Lamborghini Miura
Bugatti Veyron
Porsche 959
Ferrari 250 GTO
Porsche 550 Spyder
Ferrari 288 GTO

 

Mclaren F1 LM
CLK LM Street Car
CLK GTR Roadster
F40 LM
Koenigsegg CCX
Zonda F Roadster
F40
AMG Hammer
CLK DTM Cab
F50 GT

 

Ferrari Enzo- Blue/Black
Ferrari F40- Red/Black
Bentley Azure- White/Black
Ferrari 599- Black/Black
Pagani Zonda F- Carbon/Black
Lamborghini LP640- White/Red
Maserati MC12- White/Blue on Black
Mercedes Benz SLR 722- Black/Black with Black rims
Panoz Esperante- Red/Black
Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder- Grey/orange with black rims

 

My opinion:
1. Bugatti EB110
2. Ferrari Enzo
3. Ferrari 288 GTO
4. Ferrari F40
5. '62 Ferrari 250 GTO
6. Koenigsegg CCX
7. Maserati MC12
8. Ferrari F50
9. Pagani Zonda
10. Saleen S7 Twin Turbo

 

In no particular order

1. Ferrari Enzo
2. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Roadster
3. Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
4. Ferrari F50
5. Bugatti Veyron
6. Ferrari F40
7. Lamborghini Muira SV
8. Mclaren F1
9. Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
10. Ford GT

 

1.ferrari f40
2.bugatti veyron
3.ferrari enzo
4.ford gt (this may shock you but i love the ford gt its the worlds greatest bargain it can reach 208 and is only 150,000$)
5.koenigsegg ccx
6.f1
7.murcielago lp640
8.countach
9.f50
10.zonda f

 

-Ferrari F50 GT
-Mclaren F1 LM
-Ferrari Fxx
-Mercedes CLK GTR
-Mclaren F1
-Ferrari F40
-Ferrari F50
-Ferrari 599 GTB
-Lamborghini LP640
-Lamborghini Diablo

 

you stole my list! Well nearly - I got a few unusual ones!
McLaren F1
Lamborghini Miura
Ferrari F40
Mercedes SLR Coupe (50's version)
Ford GT40
Ferrari 250 GTO
Jaguar E-type
BMW M1
Bugatti Royale
Porsche 959

 

10 250 GTO's

Sell 9, make over 100 mil.

Easy

Take the rest buy every car on my wanted car list.

End of problem!

 

1. McLaren F1
2. Ferrari F40
3. Porsche 959
4. Porsche Carrera GT
5. Ferrari Enzo
6. Ferrari 250 GTO
7. Koenigsegg CC8 or CCR or CCX (all three are exceptional Supercars, Can't choose between the 3)
8. Mercedes Benz CLK-GTR
9. Lamborghini Miura
10. Acura NSX (maybe not as expensive, fast or quick as most on the list, but a Supercar in its own right)

Allmost made the list: Saleen S7
Bugatti Veyron
Ferrari 288 GTO
Pagani Zonda
Dauer 962 LeMans
Ford GT or GT40
Ferrari F50 or F50 GT1

 

Ferrari Enzo
Pagani Zonda F
McLaren F1
Porsche 911 GT1
Mercedes CLK-GTR
SLR 722
Masérati MC12
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0L
Ferrari 360 CS
Porsche Carrera GT (for its sound !)

 

250 GTO
250 SWB
275 GTB/4
Daytona
288 GTO
F40
F50
360 CS
FXX
430 Scuderia

 

I would be happy with just the following two.

1) Ferrari F40

2) Porsche Carrera GT

 

Half of mine come from Mr. Glickenhaus, as we both have a liking for the P-Cars (Others too)
1. 412P, either is fine, though by looks, #0850
2. P4/5
3. 250 GTO
4. 917/30, 1100hp, 0-60 2.1, on its way to 240mph!!!!!!
5. F40
6. 166 MM, it won the Targa Florio, Mille Miglia, and the 24hrs of Le Mans
7. F50
8. 288 GTO
9. 250 SWB, the true classic Ferrari
10. 312 PB, won every race it entered

So you ask, "Why no Veyron?" Here's why:
Weighs nearly twice as much as a F40
Needs twice as many cylinders, and twice as many turbos, to go 50 mph faster!
The FXX can go about 30 mph quicker than the Enzo without any turbos, about 150 more horsepower, compared to the Veyron's 500 more than the F40
But the FXX is roughly 1000lbs lighter than an Enzo

 

I had no clue the Veyron tips the scales at just shy of 6,000 lbs! (It doesn't), while the F40 does weight just shy of 3,000 lbs.
The FXX goes 30 mph faster then the Enzo? There are a few things about that which I don't know... But would require a few things to make it happen... or a combination thereof.

1. Less drag (It doesn't, while it's shape is more efficient, it produces more drag, and far more d/f).
2. Differing gear ratios then the Enzo (I suspect they are geared for just touching 200 mph, as most of the "fast" tracks which they are tested on they will reach the mid-high 190's.... such as Monza)
- Pure gearing to take the FXX to 254 [ the Enzo will reach Vmax in top gear and run out of RPM @ about 224 mph ]
- Larger diameter tires to take it to 254
- Higher RPM applicable (I suspect it is)

Are you sure the FXX is 1000 lbs less? I suspect it will tip the scales at a similar, but slightly heavier weight of the MC12 race car... but it could be less, as there is no regulated minimum... However, in numerous videos of the FXX I have seen it begin braking at the same spot as the MC12 race car does.. suggesting it is very similar.

Overall, my reasonably logical thoughts lead me to believe the FXX is not 30 mph faster then an Enzo... however, it is much faster around a track for obvious reasons. It possibly is hitting speeds 30mph faster on a back straight then an Enzo would.

As to my top 10's... I still stand by what I posted some time back, some pages back, unaltered