360CS-Future collectible or just"another" Ferrari?

The car is beautiful inside and out... it will always be one of the more highly desired Ferraris IMO.

 

Without a doubt they'll be collectables at some point. I think they have just about everything going for them.

 

I'm hoping everyone's right but then I'm just a little biased.

 

I think the key word is "eventually" Loved mine, but it is definitely not something you can drive everyday. The ride is pretty punishing on rough roads. It does serve it's purpose well as a barely street legal race car and it will be remembered as one of those special ferraris eventually.

 

I think it is a definite collectible.

 

While my CS is very collectible for me, I think I'd vote "neither" if that were available. The closest modern Ferrari to which the Challenge Stradale might compare is the 512M which still commands 100% premium over a TR and 30% over a 512TR. It was a limited production car and the final evolution for a revered platform. Unlike the 512M, the CS is not a final evolution of a production platform.....the 430 Scuderia is likely that beast.

 

Definitely going to be a collectible!

 

I don't believe I'm alone when I say, its already happened. Take a poll and I'm confident the results will show that currently its one if not THE most beautiful and desired Ferrari's in its price range.

 

I would have to respectly disagree. I had mine for sale for a fairly long time before I found the right buyer. The price I offered was more than fair and accounted for the mileage. (who in their right mind will garage queen a CS??) But just because some think that it is beautiful and perceived as one those ferrari's does not mean that it's at this point, collectible. Furthermore, I would have to argue that the CS is RARE by any means and also the price appreciating. It is certainly not in the league of the F40, 288GTO's, Lusso's, etc.

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder however, IMO the interior of your CS had much to do with the slow resale. I doubt anyone did or would compare a CS to the F40, 288GTO or the Lusso.

 

IMO red w/mileage is a tough sell, the supply is relatively plentiful and the demand is low so buyers expect a discount. For whatever reason most CS buyers do not want red. If it were silver, black or even yellow it probably would have been snapped up quickly.

Considering that many are already in the hands of collectors I would say that yes, it is a collectible model.

 

collectible for me.

 

I think the CS despite being one of the most beautiful cars ever, wont become a high level collectible because of its similarity to the modena, the F430 and the scud. It will of course hold up better in terms of resale value, than the modena and the 430 because of the low production number. Maybe even more so than the scud as well, since it seems the scud will have a longer than a 1 year production run and therefore, I'm guessing alot more than 1270. I think that at most, the CS will achieve a collector status similar to the 993TT S. That it wont reach the same status as the 288GTO or the F40 goes without saying. It would be impossible since the CS didnt have the same starting point as the two aforementioned supercars. My main gripe with the CS is that performance wise it was not ground breaking like the F40 was for its time. The F40 still outperforms most cars even 20 years later.

I will also contradict myself by saying that I most likely will never part with my CS. Not because I think that it will increase in value or reach cult status like the F40. My reasons are sentimental ones, its my first F car.

-Peter

 

There wasn't anything limited production about a F512M. It was the final upgrade of a car that was already over 10 years old and which, mainly because of the introduction of the F355, didn't sell in high numbers.

 

too many bits/ideas off the CS went straight into the 430 scuderia .

the 288 was way diff to the F40 which was way diff to the F50 which was way diff to the enzo .

i know they were supercars , and the CS or 430 scud isn't .

once 430 scuds get into circulation , not many will want to pay a premium for a CS when a 430 scud can spank it on the track , regardless which one you think looks better .

 

+1

 

agreed, that interior was a major negative, and red is common.

as for collectibility -- i'll be dead by then, but for now there is no modern car as beautiful, racy and elegant with such a growl, so drive and enjoy.

as for daily driveability, it's terrific.

 

The fact that we have a thread and a poll with a significant amount of contributors already, speaks for itself, and hints to the future of this car. There is no one who can argue that the CS is not special to drive. Ok it may not be the fastest, quickest or even ULTIMATE track tool, but it gives a very special experience to its driver, and many have already spread the word!The CS will be a collectors item in the same vein as the 911 rs's. No question.

 

Good analogy!

 

i'm kind of up in the air about the future of the CS. what i do know now, is the fact that its current asking price/resale value is amazing. if you are a good Ferrari customer, you have the choice of getting a 2004 Stradale at $200k (most likely out of warranty) or a 2007/2008 F430, at sticker, for roughly the same. however, chances are you will see the 430 depreciate eventually below Stradale levels.

i think Ferrari's, rare in all forms, eventually fall in price when the newer, more desirable versions come out. Ferrari's with even more focus such as F40's, F50's, Enzo's, etc. obviously don't lose this luster. i find it next to impossible to find a Stradale but i can find an abundance of 430's for sale. just do an ebay check...3 Stradales vs. 25 F430's available. yes, i do understand there were less Stradales made but it also appears these cars are not in the hands of speculators or flippers anymore, yet true enthusiasts or collectors.

what will be curious to see and what may define the CS future is how many come on the market with the availability of Scuderia. i would imagine that initially prices will remain stagnant or increase as those who cannot get a Scuderia immediately may grab Stradales for sale. once the demand for Scuderia's are met by Ferrari's best customers, we may see the true direction of where the Stradale will be.

 

it's funny how people can come to completely different conclusions. i have a combined 30,000 miles on my stradales, and i drive them almost daily. maybe the roads are in bad shape in northern california, but my driving experience mainly on so. cal roads is very good. stradales are surprisingly "comfortable" to drive on a regular basis. my only concern is parking. i'll drive them any place, but i am very particular as to where i'll park them

the stradale is already a "special" ferrari. they will only get more special with time. but my opinion is definitely biased

 

roads in Norcal are horrible. Socal roads are in much better condition.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely loved my CS. But there are things that do get in way of the fun (ie, watching for big pot holes, dips such as those on skyline drive where the back fins will scrape against the road on fast banking uphills or downhills, squeaking shock pins that would never go away, etc) I owned mine for ~9 months and 6000+ miles, loved driving it when I was not worrying about these things and unlike many others was not afraid to put miles on it. I also thought it was one of the best color combo CS's out there as many who have seen the car in person have attested to. It's all around a very special car and it will have it's place in Ferrari history. In time it will achieve the status of a collectible ferrari.

 

nothing like the newport beach - malibu run after soccer practise: howling and shredding up the VIP entrance to the 73 and running carpool lane at speed all the way. strad.s are real life fun

 

How many Stradales did they really make? The early 911RSs were made in little nos & for homologation but took them decades to become where they are now.

The CS is a special car & still commands a premium now but I think it still has room to depreciate a little till a point when all the good cars are gone & people start sitting up & search for it again. Some drivers still like a raw, loud & hard drive when most modern exotics have gone soft & easy but now that the response for Scuderia is so strong, owners are most likely dumping the CS for it.

I'm still positive for it to be a collectible though car collecting is very much affected by economy.