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Discussion in 'Other Off Topic Forum' started by Natalya, Sep 26, 2007.

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  1. Natalya

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    What is a pic?
     
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    Hahahaha... I love that picture!
     
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    Please Natalya, stop joking so much. Your constant humor and light hearted attitude do not belong on such a forum as this. For some serious discussion of this subject please go to **********.com
    BT
     
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    :D

    Yeah, talk to rakjoe...tell him Steph sent ya! ;)
     
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    Looks like someone has been drinking too much fermented horses urine.
     
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    Whats pathetic is your characterization of Russians as prostitutes. You are just too ignorant to get it - it wasn't about HER specifically, rather that a (purported) Russian woman posts and you pull that comment out. Shows your complete lack of class. Get a life.
     
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    To be honest, there are not even that many Russian hookers around. Most are actually from Ukraine and Belorussia, as well as Rumania, Moldova, Bulgaria etc. Russian hookers tend to hold the high end market though.
     
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    A hooker is a hooker no matter which segment of the market.
     
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    looks like you have done quite a bit of research in this area
     
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    It was for my Research Methods class in college I swear.
     
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    Right, so, who was the most talented? :D

    Surely you tested the subject matter out for yourself...ya know, for research purposes.
     
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    Borat had nothing to Kazakhs or Kazakhstan. Beneath the "toilet humor", it was an attack or hit piece on Slavic peoples and certain groups of Americans. This review by Mose Katzer explains what most viewers didn't get.


    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443453/usercomments
    1. It is important to know, that the film has two different layers. The first layer is the toilet humor that is spitted into the face of the movie-viewer. The film is made in the way, that the typical American doesn't understand the other layer of the film. The awards were given NOT for these toilet humor aspects.

    2. There is a second layer of the film, which is only really understandable for a Jewish viewer. Because Borat Aka. Baron Cohen is a Jewish man, and he could put a lot of sensitive topics is the film, which things are heavily important for the Jewish minority in America, and for the Jews anywhere else around the world. The film has nothing to do with Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan just a metaphor for the Eastern European countries, where from most of the the American Jewish people are immigrated to America. Immigrated especially from Poland and Russia. That is why the titles are in the Cyrillic script, and that is why Borat speaks Polish words. The director shows everything with the Jewish eye. He wants to show that how primitive and uncouth brutes are East Europeans where the Jew lived in ghettos for centuries.

    Beside this I think it was completely unethical to shoot the 'Kazak' scenes in the poor Romanian little village - whose inhabitants are one by one uneducated gypsies. It is a kind of racism, what the film-makers do with them. For example it was unethical to attach a brutal sex toy to the end of the amputated arm of a inhabitant, because it's obvious, that he doesn't even know what is was. It is not an ethical way of proving how uncouth are these people. Maybe it just shows that how uncouth are the film-makers, and even those, who laugh at these situations. The film director knows, that these poor men will realize too late, what happened to them, and even after it they hasn't got the ability to give a reply, or start lawsuit against the film makers. It's also unethical because Gypsies are a minority in Romania, just like the Jews. For me, it is just a little bit making fool of the Jews who lived in similar conditions in the Eastern European Ghettos in the past times.

    The other half of the film is just showing that (from the Jewish point of view) the American people are not superior that the people in the Eastern European countries. Just wants to show, that how uncouth, uneducated, primitive and racist are the American people. That's why the Jewish people mustn't forget that although America looks like a friendly country for them, but be aware, that it is just the surface. They are in the deep just as anti-Semitic as all other countries in the world, where the Jews lived in Diaspora. (Many countries – including the countries in Eastern Europe, Spain, England, or the Roman Empire.) Southern people, republicans, and Christianity are perfectly acceptable hate targets in American movies. Yes, the film-makers want to show the blood thirsty and racist Texas, the stupid feminists, the primitive American Christian fundamentalist, the Racist American student. – As the director sees them. The film also wants to show oneself a kind of documentary, and wants to pass a sentence on these people, to dishonest them, to make fool of them, to destroy them in the real life too. Many people misunderstand the bread& breakfast scene. It is not anti-Semitic. For the Jewish people it is obvious, that this scene just wants to make fool of the people, who are afraid of Jews. The cock-roach scene (when the Jews turn into cock-roaches) is reference to the Nazi propaganda movies, where the Jews are often represented by cock-roaches or rats as metaphors. The film is invokes the ancestral anxiety and phobia of the Jewish people living in America, including those anxiety, who are in the film-industry, or in the film-critics. I think these people are the most deceived. Cohen makes a false representation of America, which seems like a genial unmasking for him. I think, it is not a genial unmasking. Yes, Cohen wants to show, that that Americans are anti-Semitic. But in my opinion, all the anti-Semitism came out of Cohen's own antics rather than from his interviewees. He just managed to find some people from 300 million, to make fun with, and managed to put his phobias in their mouths.
     
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    Why are people spending time dissecting this movie? It was funny and not meant to be taken seriously. They made the south look horrible and do you hear me complaining? Enjoy the laugh and move on. If you spend your time getting into a fuss over this movie you clearly have way too much time on your hands. However I will say that his characterization of the way "gypsies" are treated seems to be fairly spot on, at least with what I have seen and experienced in parts of Romania, (spent some time over there a few years ago).
     
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    I guess you can pick apart / disect any movie and come to certain conclusions ---
    animal house = drunkin college kids that are horny
    revenge of the nerds = drunkin college nerds/ horny
    just to name a couple of comedy movies. they are just movies to me, {for the most part } - entertainment.
    why not spin those LP's backwards and listen to satanic messages..................
    a recap - borat --- laughed my ass off.
    ps. also love the ali G show.
     
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    A lot of my friends are from Kazakhstan. The country basically resembles China not the gypsy village in the movie and the people there either look Chinese-ish or Russian.
     
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    YA!
    LMAO!!
     
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    You damn Russians! Seriously, every post is about "stupid Americans". Why are you talking about Borat now?? It was pretty damn funny is all I can say! Let's be honest - The fact that it was making fun of Kazakhstan made the movie even funnier.

    What was the last Russian movie that everyone saw? The only good thing that came out of Russia is Anna Kournikova.

    RussianM3 Dude I don't care what you say, having that much knowledge of Russian/Bulgarian/Ukranian hookers is not normal.

    Anyone else think that Natalya and Diablo_rus could be the same person?


    Crazy Russians!
     
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    Russians are normal....well some of them. Every nation has ***s , just like Diablo_rus and Natalya
     
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    Not Iran!
     
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    OHHHH! That's a goodie!!
    LOL!
     
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    LMAO , good one )
     
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