FIA announces ten-year engine freeze for F1.......wtf???

That's the one.

 

Freezing engine development for 10 years!??! F1 is on its way to Hell in a handbasket.

 

I also agree that F1 needs to be more unregulated. That is what made racing facinating as teams brought out different designs periodically. Having everything look like a bag of tootsie rolls is boring. I believe they should:

Remove front wings and underbody aero, and restrict the size and number of elements of the rear wing to reduce aerodynamic downforce.

Engine size should be reduced to 2.5 liters.

Body work around the engine should be open.

Extra points should be available for reductions in fuel use during a race. IOW, the number two across the line could actually win if his fuel use was lower by some percentage. I dont know how to work it out but you get the drift. Make it so the builders want to try harder to advance technology by making some incentive.


I feel F1 has done quite well in times past by altering rules on the fly. When the turbo cars began to overtake the field, they altered the rules. I dont believe moving aero devices is a smart idea. If something came loose or was pulled, the wing could change angle of attack and you could have a flying car. I think its too dangerous, and unnecessary. Reducing aero downforce would have a much greater effect on making the driver more a leading role, and that should be a large part of the goal as well.

In addition I would take away auto shifting, and put a lever back in the pilots hand with a clutch pedal. I dont care if its fly by wire technology, just put it back. Also make the electronics without radio telemetry feedback or radio controlled software changes. Make it pit change and read only.

But obviously we are a minority. How people running the show could concieve the things they do is beyond all reason. This is what happens when beaurocrats and politics run things instead of the people at the wheel. Racing teams, even the ones at the back markers dont want this, I cant believe they do. There must always be a competitive spirit or the game is no longer worth playing. If Ferrari goes along with this BS I will just give up on racing entirely. So much of it now is so controlled and politically motivated its just no longer any fun. I gave up the Dish to take Speed off my TV, and I dont even miss it. Now my only real access to F1 is here on Fchat, and even thats waning away. Somebody better tell the idiots running the show to extricate thier heads from thier wazoo, before they kill it completely.

This would be a hell of a lot more fun to watch IMVHO:
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Well, this could prove to be quite difficult to administrate (and most especially to explain to the slobbering hooligans in the stands) - like when their favorite is told to change places on the podium becuase we just measured your fuel residual...actually, there ARE incentives for lower fuel use, if you think about it. One stop strategy, lighter fuel load, etc...

I have to say that I love the idea of reducing regulation, but I have never seen it work in practice. Remember the so-called Formula Libre? Remember the 4 cyl monstrosities of the Vanderbilt Cup era?

There have to be some rules, but for the sake of the sport, lets have them be reasonable and enforceable rules.

 

I keep saying that F1 should be forumula libre, and the only rule is the car must fit inside a box of X, Y, and Z domension. People should be able to build a 1 liter 700 pound car if they wish, and others, to build a 7 liter 2500 pound car if they wish....but NO sliding weight scale; just the car maker's choice as to what way to go....kind of like the 1.5 liter blown Alfa 159s competing against the normally asperated 4.9 liter 375 Ferraris, but without an equality formula!

 

+1

Rumor is (actually i think i read it in evo or F1 mag), that murray is working on two projects of his own company. One a compact city car that has great mileage, and the other a supposedly "radical new concept of a sportscar".

 

I think f1 should be as unrestricted as possible, but ALL of us are here, on a website, of a marque that has been dominant, so of course we think that.

But at some point, you have to ask what is 'good for the sport', and to have two teams be totally dominant - and then want to relax rules which would allow even MORE domination would be detrimental to the sport.
CART changed rules, and lost teams that could not compete, IRL could not field full fields just a couple of years ago, and where I don't want to think F1 would ever be in that position, go compare the teams and budgets of the top 2-3 teams with the bottom 2-3 teams.

No, I have no doubt in my mind F1 is in for some hard times ahead, from the purists, but the deal is, as long as folks continue to fill the grandstands at MOST venues, and with the world-wide TV audience of F1, and the governmental backing of events in Malaysia, China and a few other countries, they are not dying anytime soon.

Except in the USA, of course.

 

I would love to see Can-Am return (having missed the first coming by virtue of not being born). I have been buying some Can-Am books lately and it's interesting how the same patterns eventually kill great series like Can-Am and Group C. The cars get too fast, too expensive, certain teams dominate to the point that something has to be done, etc. Shame, but I doubt we'll see something like Can-Am again anytime soon, and especially not with 500 c.i. big blocks or 1200 HP turbo Flat-12s, there would have to be turbo restrictions, much smaller motors, etc. The original Can-Am series was pure unfiltered energy!

 

I was fortunate to be able to attend many Can Am and Formula 5000 races back then those were great times. Cars were beasts, no wind tunnels ( limited use), no computers, no spec cars, if the design look right you built it, sometimes you get right sometime you don't. I like racing today but I hate the spec car crap, wind tunnels, rules and computer data make all the cars look alike. I like the creativity and different solutions that designers and teams came up with back in those days, Mclaren, Chaparral, Lola, Chevron ,Shadow, Eagle, Porsche and Ferrari, they were all cool and different. I couldn't wait until the next season wondering how next years car would look, now days next years car looks like this years car. I raced a Formula Ford in the 70's out of a racing shop that maintain a guys ex- Peter Gethin 1974 Chevron Formula 5000, 5 litre Chevy, I had the privilege of painting that car for it's new owner. Those cars were beasts we used to refer to those as AA-Fuel Dragsters that could turn corners a real hand full. That car would make the whole shop shake when you Rev it up Man I miss those days. We run a FF2000 now which is one nice car but again they all look alike. I would really like to see F1 loosen things up a bit.

Jim

 

Andreas, Clarkson just did what what you wanted frickin awesome Stig at the wheel blew everything off 1.10.6

He put it at the top of the chart then took it off because he said if it won't get over speed humps it dont count..

price can't remember but well out of my bracket it is a dangerous car though set on fire and burnt a presenter on another show..

And the prat Simon Cowel XFactor bloke you get it in the states ? was fastest in the reasonably priced car round the track..

 

Aaaaaaaahhhhhh.