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I would like to change my cluster in the 355 to a Motec cluster.

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  1. xavior

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    Hello guys. My speedometer went out. It was working fine a couple of days ago and not it just sits on 20 KPH. The odometer is still turning but the tack does not move. This gives me a chance to put THIS

    http://www.motec.com/products/dash/adl2dash.htm

    into the 355. Does anyone have experience with this? Some questions I have is,

    1. GruppeM did somethings with my ECU so it runs with the setup perfectly. Do I need to change my ECU to a pure MoTec for the cluster to run or will it read from the stock leads?

    2. Anyone have a BAD experience with this? What?

    3. Does anyone have any other recommendations?

    Any thoughts would be nice. Just trying to improve on the 355.
     
  2. xavior

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    #2 xavior, Nov 11, 2007
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  3. xavior

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    bump...bump
     
  4. jm3

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    use the motec dash datalogger. buy it from Australia, the US agent is retarded. It will take you about 20 hours to set it up.

    Jay
     
  5. duskybird

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    I didn't want to be the one to say that :D
     
  6. xavior

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    I see. i am sure I can get it here in Japan. Just wondering if anyone has used this.
     
  7. xavior

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    forget it...
     
  8. bcwawright

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    Why???
     
  9. xavior

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    I will just figure it out on my own. Seems like no one uses this. Is there some other product that is better I wonder?
     
  10. jm3

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    I use it on my race car, with the same Bosch ecu as the 95 355, thats how I know you should figure on about 20 hours to set it up.

    You will need to assign every single input, analog or digital, and then work out how many pulses per mile, per rpm, the scale of the water temp, oil temp etc. Once you get all that done, it is very simple. You can set up alarms, shift points, Gear position indicator etc.

    Its not that hard, and virtually all the wires are at the instrument cluster pinout except for the three guages down below. You could also configure Motec to indicate the oil temp, clock and fuel level. Then you can get rid of the three gauges down below and install a double din NAV!
     
  11. F355Bob

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    #11 F355Bob, Nov 13, 2007
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    I tried changing my instruments last winter but could not get the speedo or the tach to read correctly. I was thinking of doing the Motec or Stack gauge. I had Valence make a carbon fiber instument panel for these gauges.
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  12. xavior

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    Wanna sell it? lol
     
  13. 285ferrari

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    X----if this involves cutting up the dash--I would say no---just stick with stock--unless you plan on tracking the heck out of that beautiful yellow monster-- ;D
     
  14. F355Bob

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    There is no cutting of the dash. That carbon piece is an exact replica of the stock piece including all the bulb attachments, mounting, warning lights etc. The only difference is the hole arrangment. It is completly interchanangable with the stock one. Remove it like the stock piece and put in the stock piece.
     
  15. xavior

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    how much was everything?
     
  16. xavior

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    I do. That is what I built the car for
     
  17. F355Bob

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    Instruments and new gauge faces were about $700 and the new carbon fiber piece about another $700. That is why I would like to get it to work.
     
  18. F355Bob

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    You shouldn't have to cut the dash but you would need a new insert made that replaces the stock piece. I would make sure that everthing works first. I made the mistake of getting the dash insert, gauge etc figuring that it would work with no Problem. Wrong! How will they make all the gauge work and what kind of sensors will you need for the temp and pressure gauges? Will they fit the threads of Ferrari and like the oil temp sensor, how long is the sensor? The stock one is very long to fit deep into the oil tank to give a good reading. I could not find an aftermarket one that was more than half the correct length.
     
  19. jm3

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    The Motec is configured to use the stock sensors by programming in the upper and lower resistances, voltages or pulses (in the case of a digital input ie speedsensor)

    Many, many guages can be bought to use the stock sensors on most cars. The sensors are amazingly generic, you just need to buy the right guages.

    Jay
     
  20. jm3

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    Hey Xavier: By the way, disconnect your wiring harness from the cluster, and clean or preferably Stabilant-22 on the connector to the speedo. This will probbly fix it right up.

    jay
     

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