Alonso 2 Renault !!!

Only if Alonso kidnapped the real Nigel Stepney and surrepticiously took his place in well-crafted make-up.

Patently absurd question.

 

Both. I think Button is one of the best drivers on the grid. Perhaps not on the level of an Alonso, Hamilton or Kimi, but in my opinion he is the best of the rest (and so far ahead of Massa it isn't even funny).

Honda was stymied last season by their wind tunnel issues. It wasn't so long ago that they were best of the rest behind Ferrari and in 2006 Button put on a charge in the second half of the season. Given how quickly BMW improved themselves last season, I would hardly be surprised to see a significant improvement in Honda's car next season, particularly with Brawn's stabilizing influence and, more importantly, his race day strategizing. Button has the potential to be a WDC...unfortunately he also has the potential to be the sport's next Jean Alesi.

 

+1

Button has a great opportunity to "shine" this coming season especially with Brawn on board.

 

The car will not be up to speed in 08. It will be ready to win races in 09, but by then Button will have left the team and signed up with yet another backmarker group.

 

I totally disagree. I think Button is a mid-fielder at best, and Mazza is the best #2 guy on any team in many, many years...

 

Lol...you're probably right.

 

With litterally millions of dollars trading hands, the F1 sport is ripe for criminal activity. Linking Stepney directly to Alonso is even more absurd, they wouldnt neccesarily have a clue about each other if someone, or a group of someones is manipulating things by waving bucks under peoples noses.

Regardless of evidence Stepney was paid millions to steal Ferrari documents, its doubtful he did it without the hope of some monetary gain.Regardless of evidence Coughlan was paid anything, its equally rediculous he would do what he did without hope of monetary gain. These people arent idiots, they dont work or do ANYTHING for free.

If operatives within Renault, working within McLaren could lure Stepney to steal Ferrari documents, AFTER knowing Alonso was going to McLaren, they could score on two fronts. If Alonso was paid by Renault to spend a year at McLaren under false pretense, its not totally rediculous to link Renault to the Ferrari scandal.

I know it sounds rather cloak and daggar, but after seeing the level of espionage pulled against Ferrari, and then seeing the same EXACT thing going on at Renault, I dont put anything past any of them. I would be VERY surprised if Alonso doesnt know a hell of lot more than we will EVER know. His hands are as dirty as anyones.

 

BusinessF1 maybe right about his skill/bad luck in business, but as a driver he is one I admire and one I TRY!! to model myself on whilst racing.

I hope he does come good..

 

Actually that was me talking, not BusinessF1.

I like Jenson a lot and think he is immensely skilled as a driver. Sadly he often made bad management decisions. Wouldn't be surprised if he'd do another strange team transition. Something along the line of buying himself out of a competitive Honda in 09 and join RBR, which then promptly stalls.

 

These people are A class idiots in fact idiot is to kind, I mean where did they go to copy the documents and dont forget they tried knocking at Hondas door for money no doubt. they may have been good at there jobs, but as far as pulling off that scam hopeless. So much so it makes me think this sort of thing was rife in the sport so much so they didnt even put any thought into it at all..

This is not the a worry, the worry is Max's policy of dealing with F1 fullstop. He is by far the biggest problem.

 

You have a cruel mind...

 

You haven't even seen my dark side yet.

 

Laughable.

I have two words for you: Rubens Barrichello.

 

Oh, really?!? Where did you hear that?!?

What you meant to say is "In spite of the complete and total lack of evidence".

Go back to Area 57 and find some UFOs, this conspiracy theory of yours is a complete waste of bandwidth.

 

Exactly.

He makes Jean Alesi and even Chris Amon look like geniuses with his baffling career moves.

 

As reported today in F1-Live.com: "Ultimately, Renault plumped for rookie tester Nelson Piquet Jr, whose appointment as a race driver was believed to be a condition of the possible financial involvement of Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim."

They also report in the same article that Alonso' favorite pick as his teamate was Fisi.
Giancarlo Fisichella himself has hinted that he was Fernando Alonso's preferred Renault team-mate for 2008.

The Spanish sports daily Marca quotes the Roman veteran as telling journalists last week at Jerez: "If I was the second driver, Fernando would already have signed for Renault."

Interesting...

 

I think you have a reading problem. I said " regardless of any evidence". I dont believe for one minute he stole and gave up those documents just for the fun of it. The man was making $800K per year, thats not chicken scratch, thats a small fortune. As to being stupid about copying the documents, that was Coughlans retarded wife. But maybe you had one thing right, maybe the whole sport is now so corrupt that cheating and stealing just dont matter enough anymore to be careful.

As for Area 57, never heard of it. Area 51 yes, but Area 57? Maybe its John Kerry's back office at Heinz Ketchup factory.

 

I believe he made one bad decision (signing for Williams). Most people would, I think, have believed that Honda would offer him a better chance of winning races than Williams. It's just been unfortunate that Honda haven't performed in the way that Jenson and others expected. I think he'll stick with them and he's still young enough and good enough to win a WDC given the right car.

 

Rubens may have been more "compliant", but IMO Mazza is a much better driver than Rubens, and is still willing to accept the role in the 2nd seat..

 

Rubens twice finished second in the WDC and beat Michael straight-up on the track on more than one occasion. That is much, much mroe than can be said for Massa.

 

No, I read that line correctly. I was just laughing at the absurdity of it.

 

From Ross Brawn (who should know) "I know Rubens very well and he was always able to push Michael (Schumacher) - to the point where we had to hold him back sometimes, as you will recall! Give him the right equipment and he can win races, so Rubens is not going to be the reason why we don't succeed."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64364

 

Rubens not only did much more with the Ferrari than Massa has done, he was also a standout driver when driving midpack cars. Anyone remember his 2nd place finish at Monaco in the Stewart or his 2nd place in Montreal in the Jordan, his opening lap at Donington in 1993 or his pole at Spa in 1994? He had 6 podium finishes and two poles while driving backmarkers before he made it to Ferrari.

How many podiums and pole positions did Massa have when he ran with Sauber? As many as I did...